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Comments (16)Point No. 1: >>>"They are made with the grill or griddle surface recessed slightly from the edge. How can the pan have direct contact with the burner?"A pan does not not need and should not ever --- and I mean, never, ever, no way, no how, absolutely never --- have direct contact with a magnetic induction burner. The burner sits beneath a ceramic glass sheet. Unlike with a radiant smoothtop burner, a pan does not have to be in contact with the glass to get heat transfer. The glass creates a gap between the burner and the pan. The pan just has to be within the hob's magnetic field which passes through the glass. The the glass does not shape or control or direct the field in any meaningful way. It is the field that produces the heat in the pan. The glass is --- how shall I put this? --- magnetically transparent and magnetically inert. Think about the folks who place silicon baking mats over induction hobs when cooking. (The idea of the mats or paper being to avoid scratching the cooktop when using rough surfaced pans like plain cast-iron fry pans and also to catch spatters.) I'm not clear if what you don't understand is how magnetic induction differs from radiant heating or if you did not just did not understand that the significance/insignificane of the "gap." If you still do not understand how induction burners do not produce heat themselves but "induce" it in the pan, have a look at "The Induction Site." If you've already seen that, then never mind. Adding a lip or some silicon matting only slightly increases the space that the glass top creates between the burner and the pan and is not enough to perceptibly affect the strength of the magnetic field. Now, to be sure, if you raise the pan a bit more, the field strength falls off so rapidly that it won't be strong enough to heat the pan (and likely will be so weak that a pan will not even be detected which, in turn, will shut the burner off.) Lips on griddle-grill pans (such as the Lodge 10 x 20 cast-iron one), are simply not tall enough to be a problem. The topic has been addressed many, many times before. I believe it is herring_maven who has explained many times (based on his direct experience with induction for over a decade) that the lips do not produce a big enough gap to cause any problem with induction cooktops and ranges. Point Number 2: Chef King griddles do not have lips on the bottom and are made of carbon steel, not stainless steel. Carbon steel is a close cousin of cast iron. CS is less brittle, which means that CS pans can be thinner than CI and therefore lighter. CS seasons like CI (some say easier) and so becomes nearly non-stick with use. CS pans are an excellent choice for induction ranges. (FYI, Lodge makes a line of CS skillets which competes with other manufacturers higher-end lines such as DeBuyer's "Mineral B" pans. If you are interested, there are several long threads at the chowhound site discussing, comparing and contrasting various lines and types of CS pans.) CS gets confused with stainless steel sometimes because new CS pans tend to be bright and shiny before seasoning darkens with use. I have a Lodge 10x20 CI griddle (which I have used without problem on induction) but I prefer the Chef King because of the more generous surface area and the upright handles which make it much easier to move around, clean, etc. There are numbers of testaments here from folks who have bought the 14x23 burner-spanning Chef King model. I've linked to a recent thread below if you want to follow up with more research. Point No. 3: >>>"The cast iron ones are too heavy for my liking and the handles heat up. My current double burner griddle is a lifesaver for me."Well, the Chef Kings have raised handles which are easy to grasp even with a hot pad or oven mit, but they are not lighweights. The 14 x 23 weighs about 16 pounds, and the 12 x 20 weighs about 10 pounds, IIRC. For comparison, the Lodge 10x20 CI units weigh about 15 pounds and a 12" CI fry pan weghs about 7 pounds. If you've got a lightweight burning spanning griddle, it is probably cast aluminum and probably eighs around 4 or 5 pounds. If that is your frame of reference, you might want to consider a pair of the single burner, non-stick griddle pans that others have mentioned above. They will be significantly lighter and much easier to handle that CI, CS or, really, a burner spanning unit. You can get them in square shapes which work better than round ones for some people. I think Vollrath makes some square, induction suitable aluminum griddle pans which would be much lighter and have regular pan handles. (They have steel inserts in their bases which makes them induction capable.) Try webstaraunt and Amazon to find them. Here is a link that might be useful: Which size Chef King griddle should I get? This post was edited by JWVideo on Thu, Apr 4, 13 at 14:02...See Moreinduction disk? For using non-magnetic cookware on induction..
Comments (8)I just received this email from the folks at MetroKitchen from whom I purchased the induction disk I had to return. I am so impressed that they care this much about the quality of their products! So, a plug for MetroKitchen! Happy Thanksgiving everyone ! here is the email: Lee told me about your problems with the induction disk. We're very sorry that it did not work for you. I am investigating it further with the manufacturer because we want to make sure it works as we promise on our site. We had been told that it makes most pans induction-ready, but obviously that's not the case with yours. Thanks for bringing the problem to our attention. We'll do our best to help you try to use your current pans. For all of your extra efforts, we'd like to offer you a 10% discount on a future purchase at MetroKitchen.com. You can call us at 888-892-9911 with your order and mention this code --xxxxxxxxx . Or you can order on line and enter the same code in the "special instructions" box in the shopping cart. (It's on the same page as where you enter your credit card information.) Again, we apologize for the inconvenience. We'll keep you posted on what we learn from Mauviel about the disk. Have a Happy Thanksgiving. Regards, Lynn Nowicki CEO www.Metrokitchen.com...See Moreinduction ready cookware - xpost
Comments (33)When I searched for affordable tri ply all clad (not the All Clad brand which was too expensive) induction cookware a couple years ago I read about the Tramontina from Walmart too. Unfortunately I also found that Canadian Walmarts do not carry it and I couldn't order it in from an American Walmart. I could have gone to the U.S. and shopped there but it wasn't practical. So if lisa_a happens to be from Canada it would be why she can't find it in Walmart. In doing research on it, it seemed the Walmart line is made in China whereas other Tramontina sets are made elsewhere (can't remember where). Some people don't trust materials etc. on stuff coming from China. I ended up shopping Amazon.ca and getting a set of Quisinart French cookware for a very decent price. It is made in France (I don't think all of Quisinart is). It is triply and all clad as well so not just the bottom heats up. I have been happy with my cookware and feel I got something similar to the Tramontina I wanted. It has a lifetime warranty. There are other very similar sets of Quisinart available so you need to really watch to get the triply all clad ones....See Morefudge catastrophe on induction - x-post
Comments (18)I can't help you on the induction question, but a while back, I was doing a search for fudge recipes on this site, and came across this info that may be helpful: What Maida has to say about rescuing fudge batches: If you're fudge turned to sugar, or if it is stiffened in the saucepan, or if it crumbled when you cut portions (because you beat it too long), add 2 tablespoons of cream and stir over very low heat (cutting up the fudge with a wooden spatula while you stir). Cook and stir only until warm and slightly softened but not until hot or thin. Remove from heat, beat again until smooth and thick, and them turn it out of the saucepan again. (Some cooks think that this twice cooked fudge is creamier and more smooth than otherwise.) If you have the opposite problem of fudge that did not set, you didn't cook it long enough or you poured it too soon. If you think that you did not cook it long enough, add 1/4 cup milk or cream, then cook and stir constantly until it reaches 236 degrees again. Cool as above, and beat again. But if you think that you cooked it enough and simply poured it too soon, transfer the mixture to a marble, tile, or formica countertop. Then squeeze it between your hands and knead it as though it were bread dough until it is firm enough to hold a shape. Then roll it into a sausage shape, or form it into a square about 1 inch thick. Let stand for just a few moments and them slice the sausage shape or cut the square into portions. Unless someone wants to lick the pan, the fudge that remains can be scraped out, kneaded with your hands until it’s smooth and creamy, and rolled into marble size balls...See More- 11 years agolast modified: 11 years ago
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