UNCLE! Does the sun still exist?
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ZachS. z5 Platteville, Colorado
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do good tomatoes still exist
Comments (24)As to the original question, I agree with several other posters - there are certainly a lot of good tomato varieties out there, probably more than one person could grow in a lifetime. To narrow the search, it would be helpful to know the intended purpose. Cherry? Slicer? Paste? Eaten raw, cooked, or canned? With nothing more to go on, we are indeed (as another poster stated) just preaching to the choir. Short Canadian seasons would certainly limit the choices; but started early enough, and given protection at both ends of the season, many varieties should mature successfully. My best recommendation would be to start with varieties that have demonstrated their ability to produce in Canada. To that end, Canada's own heirloom seed organization, Seeds of Diversity Canada, could be of great help. I have grown a Canadian paste variety, "Quebec 1121", that performed exceptionally well for me in Wisconsin. Here is a link that might be useful: Seeds of Diversity Canada...See MoreDoes this tree exist?
Comments (38)So glad people are still chiming in. I'm especially glad to hear from Annuka and Bobb - Osakazuki is on my shortlist and I wondered how it would do in sun. Also glad to hear it grows relatively fast. I do love the japanese maples for their wonderful branching structure. That Garnet is a beaut too. Hallerlake - I do try to pick up detritus, but it just doesn't work. This tree is 30+ feet, and was not really planted in an ideal spot to begin with. I will be more diligant next summer about watering, but I do think it's doomed to my great sadness. Removal is going to be hell and visually it will be such a loss to the yard. Thanks again everyone!...See MoreDoes this tomato exist?
Comments (9)A few days back there was a guy who said he had a terrible time growing tomatoes in Sacramento. So I did a Google search for GW threads where sautesmom/Carla in Sacramento had posted, and gave him a bunch of links where she spoke about tomatoes that did well for her. A couple of those threads were great hot-desert-tomato discussions and today the best one no longer exists, according to GW. *sigh* Anyway, here's the other great thread: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/tomato/msg0716384122262.html And another that's worth looking at: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/tomato/msg0204282810466.html It's generally said that cherries and grapes do better in extreme heat than larger tomatoes. A lot of people recommend Porter Dark Cherry (aka Porter's Dark Cherry) for extreme heat; Bonnie Plants grows it, and according to a note on my list, suncitylinda believes Bonnie renamed it -- the original name was Porter (TGS and Sand Hill may still be selling it). [There are a whole lot of different Porter-something-else tomatoes, and there are theories that most of the others are a different second variety.] Then there are the African tomatoes. Here's Tatiana's list: http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Category:African_Tomatoes However, that list doesn't include others reputed to come from Africa: Heidi (Cameroon) and Wuhib (Ethiopia)....See Moredesperate uncle trying to save broken family
Comments (16)its pretty incredible how much complete strangers can not only help with insight and validation - but simply with encouragement. The other night when things were over the top i posted the initial plea in a few different forums and this one has really paid off! I would just like to thank everyone who has shared their thoughts - each one has added to my ability to see this as clearly as possible given the circumstances. It is true, my sister has directed the temper and direction this family was going to take and my father has allowed it and enabled it at every point. Mostly out of fear of what she would either do to herself or her kids,as she has threatened some pretty heavy things about how, where and with whom she would turn to if not granted her demands; one by one over the years she has taken more and more privilege and exacted more abuse with every generation. They all were the result of, what i believe to be her supplementing both income and human relationships via children and child support. She never wanted the man and actually went to great attempts to keep them all at a distance(beyond the incoming checks) All in all it is dysfunction junction at its best. While i initially had great relationship with the boys- kind of diffusing all the craziness - and just being good ole Uncle Mike - it has taken a slow turn for the worse every time i had to be the disciplinarian in the absence of any other willing authority - then their puberty and independence really ignited a whole new powder keg - given the evolution of circumstances and their total and absolute disregard for any authority let alone male authority. Now, im really just trying to hang in there for my mom because everyone else seems to pick at her the most, my dad gets it too but he sides with them more than not out of the aforementioned fear and a strange opposition to dealing with them or taking a stand on what is right...He is definitely the enabler even though he resents it as much as anyone. He too can be a very abusive man(emotionally) but not to them. they have witnessed him emotionally abuse my mom just as i have - He really never messed with my sister but i have always gotten both barrels. I left when i was 19 and only just returned recently to witness the entire family peck at her like wolves. Being that my dad is older and sickly he has lightened up a bit and now its all backfiring on him as well as the rest of us thru her and her childrens rage. Its pretty obvious after knowing what i know and reading the follow up posts that this is the work of many years of pain in this house. Strange but in all of the craziness there is still a hint of love - but its a desperate sort with little patience and a lot of animosity for the truth. I am public enemy number one because i not only try to enforce a little decency but i also speak truths that threaten every ones daily routine regarding the disrespect and unnecessary rudeness. I have kept myself away and have grown up with a very happy and stable life until i lost the love of my life to a PHD at CALTECH (her not me)I was all that was left of a truly perfect and beautiful 10 year relationship that lost out to science and the pursuit of excellence in genetics - there was no room for me when it came to juggling intense labwork at a highly competitive national institution. So i came home to regroup and help out only to find a very messed up group of people all screaming at each other. It is out of control and I am very close to throwing in the towel. Even though i am not one to give up easily...i am slowly wearing thin. No one wants to listen or talk except my mom and i really do speak from the heart with love and insight and knowledge. I keep threatening to write a book about this as payback if not a simple exercising of my own demons. I am slowly being absorbed by all of this but thanks to being away for so long i have managed to avoid most of the scars that everyone else seems to have grown. Its catching up though. Unfortunately. I wish i could say that i believe that i can help but im afraid that they are all stuck in a routine that will never change. If i could just get my father to stand up to all of it i believe the others would fall in line - but he would rather fail than take any advice from me. he truly resents me even though he needs me. Sometimes its so obvious that the more he needs me the more he resents me. Along with that, I am a threat to all because i do see what is taking place and why and no one wants to hear it at all. I thought i had the skills to rationalize my way thru this and in any other environment i believe they are sufficient - save for this one painful example. This is all the family i have and at the very least - i am not going to leave my mom to the wolves. Anyway, sorry for the ramble - but for those of you who have shared in this thread - i guess im just spelling it all out in the form of a reply - because of the willingness to share feedback...and because there is always more to a story than whats just on the surface. i felt compelled to paint a clearer picture of what is really going on. And i want to thank you all for caring enough to help out a complete stranger. thanks again UncleMike...See Moredavid52 Zone 6
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