Colorado '23-'24 Rose survival report
We had a mild winter so alot more surviving cane than last year.
The main rose bed after trimming today. It is April 26th so a couple of weeks early but we were both tired of looking at the mountains of dead cane.
Winnipeg Parks is again the star as she had no dead canes.
Amiga Mia was also a star, only needing the ends with spent flowers trimmed off.
Easy on the Eyes was third best in the main bed. It is the middle back one. Only needed spent flowers trimmed off. It is pretty much the same size as last year. The ones around it all were trimmed down due to dead cane. Today was kind of a rough pruning to get the majority of dead cane out but will do another pass after the potentially freezing weather this weekend is over.
Surrounding the fabulous Easy on the Eyes are to the right of it Calico Gal (died to the ground), and proceeding clockwise, Livin Easy (died to the ground), Dainty Bess (died to the ground), Iceberg (lost alot of cane).
The Fairy kept most of her cane. Only needed last year's spent flowers trimmed off.
Pretty Lady Rose also kept quite a bit. Lots of green cane but we took about half off because the new stuff stopped sprouting at about that level.
Fourth of July (much to my surprise) was cane hardy to the tip. This is the first year it has kept its cane.
When it blooms we will see if this is all Fourth of July or if some is Dr. Huey, the previous occupant of this spot. Some of these canes should be Forth of July since they had repeat blooms last year so I am hopeful.
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Moses, Pittsburgh, W. PA., zone 5/6, USA
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10 days agolast modified: 10 days agoRobusta had some dead cane and alot of live cane. Still looks pretty gangly compared to other years. Not exactly an attractive bush form.
This is a row of 4 climbers. Each year they are all dead to the ground. I had planned these to be a background for the bed and a wall of color.From left to right, Sally Holmes, Lady in Red, Above All and Fred Loads.
I've decided to take Above All (planted 6/20) out and put Victorian Memory in that spot. Should have enough room for it to be 6x6 with no interference of other roses. Should Victorian Memory over whelm Lady in Red (planted 4/19) I will not mourn it's passing because it never climbs or gets beyond a short squat bush.Fred Loads I'm going to keep because it grows really tall each year and is spectacular. Maybe some day it will keep some cane. It is my youngest rose and was planted in 7/2020.
Sally Holmes (planted 6/17) always has the clock ticking on her because she is an on-going disappointment. Just don't have anything better for that spot yet. In the mean time I enjoy her beautiful blooms on a short squat bush.
Dick Koster on the left and Denver's Dream on the right didn't do too bad. Not much to take off.
Neil Diamond, left and Parade Day just to the right of it (tagless - it got run over and broke by the trash can) didn't do too bad.
This looks like a picture of Winnipeg Parks but it was supposed to be of Candy Land (to the right of it) and Love Song (in the foreground). Candy Land, another climber was dead to the ground and Love Song had significant die back also.
Altissimo came with the house and is in a bad spot. It is only one cane every year so we chopped it to the ground to see if we could get it to branch.
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10 days agolast modified: 10 days agoMoses, I would like to add Quietness. It is finally in stock at High Country Roses and I was able to see it on my March trip. When I was populating the bed it was always out of stock. Matt said he had a property order something like 300 of them so until this year I hadn't seen it.
Two Quietness blooms.
Helpmefind says it is tip hardy in zone 4 so that is a huge plus. Also says Japanese Beetles love it so not thrilled about that.If I got it I would probably have to take something out. Dainty Bess might be my first choice for removal as it was planted 8/18 and is still dying back every year. She is beautiful but the flowers are all devoured by the beetles all summer.
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10 days agolast modified: 10 days agoHelen,
Dick Koster is one of my favorites. It was planted 8/18 as a band from High Country Roses and the blooms are super pretty. They also stay on the bush a long time and the Japanese Beetles don't bother it.
June 20th.
Closer up of the blooms. They have a really cool cupped shape.
Here it is June 23, 2023.
Denver's Dream is a good little rose (planted 8/19 as a HCR band). The blooms age beautifully on it. Picture also June 23rd.
June 30th.
Also June 30th.
I don't think you can go wrong with either one.
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10 days agoHere is the Fairy on June 23 last year. I will try to figure out messaging on my computer tomorrow. I can’t find it on my phone.
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10 days agolast modified: 10 days agoThat is a great looking Fairy. I think it is bigger than mine, although I may have under estimated the size of it right now so when it was larger it may have been 3 ft wide.
July 16, 2023. I think it is more white in the first flush and gets pinker with repeats.
Here it is in Oct. 2023 with much pinker blooms.
The flowers seem to last a long time on the bush. And the Japanese Beetles don't bother them. Lots to like about The Fairy.I am considering more miniatures/polyanthas due to the ones I have not getting eaten by the Japanese Beetles
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