Shed is in! Love it, but I need find a creative fix!

9 years ago

So the guys installed the shed yesterday and it is great. We really like it, but as I suspected the ground wasn't level and it is up on bricks as a result. I'm thinking we can use chicken wire to keep the critters out and then put lattice strips in front of it to pretty it up. Before I do that though I want to make sure the creative minds here don't have a better idea.

Also, I've already picked up the paint to match the house. Should we paint first or cover the gapping holes first?

this is an inspiration pic I found for the lattice

any better ideas? Thanks!

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justgotabme

9 years ago

I never heard of needing ventilation under a shed. Can you explain more about that 4boys2 please.

Lukki, I'm trying to remember what type of floor you have in your shed, but can't for the life of me remember for sure. That might make a difference with air flow. Ours, as you know, is on a concrete slab.

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Kitch4me
9 years ago
Looks good!

I like your idea of using lattice. I would want it the same color as the shed. So, I would paint the shed, then paint the lattice before attaching. Then plants :)
Suzi AKA DesertDance So CA Zone 9b
9 years ago
Lattice is great and we have it, but it does get dirty when the rain splashes the dirt, so it needs painting a lot. I'd put stones or bricks around the bottom if it were me.
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4boys2
9 years ago
I had to delete my previous post because I missed the part where you said you would use hardware cloth behind the lattice :(
I would paint first...That way you can put up various (painted of not) sections of lattice and take a look.
Since it is not on a cement pad do not block in a way as to limit air flow..
busybee3
9 years ago
I would consider a sturdy cedar lattice and let it naturally gray... and add plantings around it. I wouldn't want to have to maintain paint on lattice... if you want it white, put up maintenance free lattice. can you at least partially fill in the area underneath with pebbles?? I don't know what critters you're worried about, but wasps/yellow jackets could get easily get through chicken wire...
carolb_w_fl_coastal_9b
9 years ago
Where are you located? Here in termite territory, putting wooden structures up on blocks acts as a barrier to the little buggers....
rococogurl
9 years ago
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Perhaps you'll get some ideas from an article on Backyard Sheds.
maire_cate
9 years ago
Good idea about keeping the critters out although I'm not sure chicken wire is the best choice, perhaps something stronger like turkey wire. We're having difficulties eliminating the ground hog from under our shed and deck. He is an expert at avoiding our Have a Heart Trap and DH is getting frustrated.

We had installed turkey wire behind our lattice but the little rodent merely dug beneath it. When we replace our deck this summer we'll install a stronger barrier and bury the wire even deeper with the bottom edge folded at a 90 degree angle with the wire coming out 2 feet from the lattice.

There are different thicknesses of lattice - the thin stuff will break off easily. We used cedar so that we wouldn't have to paint it.
justgotabme
9 years ago
It looks so cute Lukki! For a quick, rather inexpensive finish, I'd go with the heavy duty plastic hardware cloth (much easier to work with and PVC lattice in the color of your choice.
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9 years ago
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kitch4me, thank you, I'm not into gardening much but I am really looking forward to the plantIng part of this project.

Suzi, Rocks is what I was hoping someone would say, dh says they won't keep the all the animals out but I think that some larger sized ones here and there could add interest. Not liking the idea of having to paint lattice all the time though. :c(

Yaya! That shed is so cute! I have a garden whimsey board on Pinterest and could pin cute sheds to it all day long. Yes, I think this new shed definately needs some whimsey! Thanks for the pic!

4Boys2. Thank you for the insite about blocking ventilation down there, we went all out to ventilate the interior but hadn't even considered air flow under it!

Busybee, I'm not stuck on the painted lattice at all especially after hearing about the maintenance of it, it's just what I was finding, no we want things maintenance free whenever possible. Our deck has cedar, so I actually like the idea of just letting it age. The critters we have are raccoons, opossums, rabbits, squirrels, chipmunks and ground hogs. Though during the install, our busybody neighbor decided to come visit the work crew and let them know that she's unhappy about the gaps under the shed because skunks will be living under there. I never see or smell skunks though. I just want whatever we do to blend in with the landscaping we put there; maintenance free and natural works for me! Thank you!

Carol, we are in SE Michigan an hour north of Detroit but we transplanted from So Cal so I understand termites big time, they are awful! Thankfully, I don't think they are as much of an issue here, instead we have huge carpenter ants to contend with, ewe! Wonder if the blocks will help with them too.

Rococogurl, I saw some of those pics on Pinterest! I want sheds like those!!! That round Ikea one is a hoot!!

Maire-Cate, With the great responses I got, I was so happy I posted but now I am relieved! That is a real mess to contend with, I would have never even thought a ground hog would do that! Gopher maybe but ground hogs are so big! What if it is a female trying to nest! Holy Moly....ok, note to hubby, buy stronger wire....and I am going to say a few prayers for your DH too! Could not resist this

Justgottabme, you told me it would be ok and you were right! The two guys that came out were fantastic! They were polite, easy going and courteous. They had been given the wrong shingles, so one of them made a bunch of calls and got permission to just go buy some at home depot. They made sure it was perfect, The one in charge is a carpenter by trade and said he'd be willing to come back in the off season to do some built in shelving in our walk in pantry. Anyways, thank you for all the pics and stuff. Btw, what is hardware cloth? Is it wire mesh? I've never heard of it before.
Bonnie
9 years ago
Start with some landscaping and a window box full of plantings. I'd skip the chicken wire and lattice because critters can get through both so easily. Assuming there is a secure floor in the shed, I wouldn't worry about critters getting in. I'd cover the holes and then paint to match the house. Can't wait to see what you do with it!
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9 years ago
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oh we got the upgraded flooring, plywood on metal foundation, topped with 3/4 inch treated plywood and some other layer with a rubber like flooring on top. We didn't have the budget for concrete but it's fine, the floor is really strong and will hold the riding mower along with everything else. I have wanted to put a shed there for as long as I can remember.
justgotabme
9 years ago
I'd call the Tuff Shed rep and ask about needing air flow under the shed. I can't find anything anywhere that says you need it.
We've had PVC lattice under our porch for over a decade and it's still looks nice, but I like the block around the inspiration photo you shared in your first post. How much maintenance do you want to deal with around the shed?
justgotabme
9 years ago
Just realized I forgot to add a picture of the plastic hardware cloth. We use to protect our screens from our cats pushing them to get in places they shouldn't. The plastic is easier to work with. No need to wear leather gloves and use tin snips when cutting it.
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9 years ago
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qwell, with my husbands health issues, we need as little maintenance as possible and I still need it to be budget friendly too. I think the idea of the ventilation under the shed is due to the moisture from the soil and how the dampness can effect the wood. Sort of like an old style cellar basement. We don't plan on covering it with anything solid so it should be fine. I like the blocking too, it's just a little plain for me. I am really hoping to create something sweet with a little whimsey to it, something like these

Love the hydrangea's and what sort of looks like a Japanese maple on this last one.

I have never seen that kind of plastic grating before, where is it sold at? places like Ace? Maybe I can swing into a local store and check it out tomorrow. I've been looking at bushes and shrubs and am having the toughest time narrowing down the plant selections. Landscaping is hard! lol
justgotabme
9 years ago
We've never had a wood floor shed, but since you need the air flow for that I'd go with the lattice and add a little garden around it. You're examples are lovely. I especially like the last one.
I bought the plastic hardware cloth (I think they might call it mesh) at HoDe.
Landscaping, in my experience, is much easier than we tend to think it would be. It's not too unlike placing items on a shelf. Granted you want to plant according to sunlight through out the day. If you like low maintenance, look for plantings that are indigenous to your area and are drought resistant. Once you've made your choices, plant them according to height as you would placing decorative items on a shelf.
Kippy
9 years ago
It you like those last photos, I think I would go with just the hardware cloth bent in an L shape and buried under the soil to keep critters out from under it. You could always put flat rocks around it to hold down the wire too, but if you are going to plant around it, in no time at all you will no see under it anyway.

My boss just got a pair of new similar sheds too, they did the same thing, but up on blocks to level
4boys2
9 years ago
This is what I mean by using hardware cloth .Don't go that high on the shed.
It looks like your on a metal frame ?
You might want to make a "c" so that it can be stapled to the bottom of the actual shed.
Or...bring the hardware cloth and "lattice" just to the bottom of the shed.
I'm kind of like the horizontal -
Darcy Vance
9 years ago
Oh! I love the landscaping on that last one. Can you tell me where you found it? I'd like to pin it to my Pinterest board but I can't do that from here. Now I want a shed.
4boys2
9 years ago
Darcy~ This one ?
dedtired
9 years ago
I think you need a She Shed.
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9 years ago
I have it pinned to my pinterest, lukki irish, in the garden whimsey and design board. She shed! love that!

Thanks for the tips and feed back Justgottobme, the mesh is a cool idea and the way to go. We'll attach it to the cedar lattice and just take it to the ground. If they want to get in, they will find a way, but at least that might deter some.

4boys, it is on metal framing and has metal joicing underneath. I just plan to staple it to the latice and bring it to the ground. There isn't a whole lot of room but I want to try to incorporate some rocks for interest maybe. That horizontal is nice looking, perfect for decking.
4boys2
9 years ago
I don't know anything but skunks...
In the skunk world it is very important to bring the "mesh" out at least 6 in.on the ground.
They dig to the spot where shed meets ground..They don't tunnel so much..
Ask me how I know ? Or just watch the video. I had three !! Gone now...But what a pain.
You know an ounce of prevention !!
ravencajun Zone 8b TX
9 years ago
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I think if it were mine I would have Hardy plank(fiber cement siding) added solid all around the bottom it will last forever with no maintenance. If ventilation is needed I would cut one rectangular cut out on each side and install solid metal mesh screen and then vent slats over that, frame it in like a picture frame so it looks pretty, similar to that picture of the vent but with the metal mesh screening inside. nothing could get in and it would get ventilation. The Hardy plank is good solid long lasting material, it is cement based, and can be painted any color. The vent would match just like the vent in the picture of your shed in the top of the wall. You can actually buy those vents and just cut the slot to nail it into the Hardy plank.
justgotabme
9 years ago
4boys2, after seeing the video, I am SO glad ours in on a slab.
malna
9 years ago
I swear I smelled Pepe La Puw outside my window when I watched the video. Did you invent Smell-A-Vision?
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9 years ago
4boys, thanks for the video, so sorry you had to deal with that! Between your skunks and Maire-Cates ground hog I'm a little freaked out!

Ravencajun, Thanks for the suggestion, might be worth looking into I guess. Btw, are you in Louisiana? If so, I am a tad jealous. I raised my daughter in a little town by Lake Charles. It is wonderful there.
ravencajun Zone 8b TX
9 years ago
I am from around that area but currently live in the north Houston area. I think it would be a very inexpensive and long term no maintenance option. We did the hardy plank all around the lower back side of our house for those reasons. We have lots of those critters here, skunks, possum, racoon, squirrel, you name it they can't tear it up.
seww1
8 years ago
What did you end up doing to disguise the base?

Sue
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8 years ago
We haven't done anything yet. We've been planting when weather allows and hubby isn't working, so it's still on the list. We were thinking of doing hardy plank, but squashed the idea when we were told it's very hard to cut and nail. Will probably end up doing buried screen and latice.
ravencajun Zone 8b TX
8 years ago
You should always use screws with hardi plank goes up very easily, using screws for construction holds up much better, won't be pulling loose eventually like nails. It isn't much harder to cut but there are special saw blades you can get for cutting it.
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Jamaica Cottage Shop Inc
8 years ago
Many clients of our sheds/cottages, that have built on uneven terrain, have used lattice - this is a great client pic of how they finished off one of our garden sheds (this pic/shed was a Better Homes & Garden feature!)

http://jamaicacottageshop.com/shop/pond-house/

http://www.bhg.com/home-improvement/outdoor/shed-playhouse/a-gallery-of-garden-shed-ideas/#page=11

Good luck! Kim :)
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8 years ago
Raven, you're right the guy did say it has to be screwed in not nailed. The problem is my husband is limited physically due to a fracture in his back and since we have other options he can do, it's not something he will agree to hire for.

Cute shed Kim, thanks for the pic