Please share experience with Wolf, Thermador, Bosch, Miele gas cooktop
kristine_ca
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Comments (26)Sorry, just took a look at this thread again and noticed your question...by the time I got to Miele, I had decided on induction, so I didn't give the Miele an actual test drive. I did give it a pretty thorough inspection at the Miele place, though, and thought it was a very sexy range -- and the performance seemed very similar to the Wolf dual fuel. I say that b/c the Miele also has the stacked burners, which I really liked, but the BTUs are higher than Wolf (which top out at around 16k, I believe -- Miele was closer to 20k or so -- I can't quite remember). The Miele ovens on the 48" range were very nice -- the smaller one is a speed oven, and the bigger one is a regular convection. The speed oven wasn't a big plus for me personally, since I really wanted a steam oven as a second oven, but there are people on this forum who love their speed ovens. One thing I really liked about the Miele oven, which Wolf doesn't have, is the burst of steam option, which is great for baking (you can program up to 3 bursts of steam for up to 6 min. each during cooking). I didn't care that much about the MasterChef options on Miele, but again, others love these. At any rate, the Miele seemed very similar to the Wolf, I liked the steam option on the oven better and liked the Miele burners better (also, if you're interested in a grill, theirs was excellent and seemed very similar to the Wolf, which I think is the best in the business). If I had stuck with a range, I would have been very tempted by the Miele....See MoreI'm stuck! Thermador, Gaggenau, Miele, Wolf .. a mix? Please help
Comments (72)"There is no discernible diff given how it works and the results." Hmmm, there are actually very considerable differences. A key element of Sous Vide is that the food is sealed in a bag. This retains the juices and environment within the bag and protects the food from environmental conditions outside of the bag. Vacuum sealing and keeping the food pressurized adds another bit to this (I can't remember the details but I know that there is a huge difference when something is not vacuum sealed as like many others I've experimented with this). Water has a much higher heat capacity than air. The water bath used in Sous Vide is critical to maintaining very accurate temps required for Sous Vide. This cannot be replicated with air or steam as Anova tries to lead people to believe. Interestingly, Anova promotes that their oven "does sous vide in half the time". To my knowledge this is impossible as it's the very long slow cooking time that balances the collagen and proteins in the food and produces the results that sous vide is known for. The Anova may be a great option for people to add basic CSO capability to their kitchen for an affordable price (and I'm actually considering one for my studio) but it is not a replacement for sous vide regardless of what their marketing material says....See MoreUrgent. Wolf vs Bosch vs Thermador gas cooktop...helllllpppp :)
Comments (8)As far as the burners, I like the dual stacked burners with Wolf. This gives you a really low simmer and it cuts some of the flare you can get with gas on high heat. I have these burners and my DIL has Bosch which look very similar to these. The Thermador might be Ok but the simmer is achieved by the burner clicking on and off but that bothers some people. Otherwise considerations might be for the preference of the knobs, which I like the knobs out of the way Note that the way you get the bigger burner in the middle on the Bosch and Therm. Is by pushing the burners out slightly. Consider if one seems easier to clean than others. It might not be easy to do but if you can compare how the flame adjusts as you turn it up. I can say Wolf has a very fine control compared to Bosch. It has a range of flame for two different burners....See MoreBosch vs Wolf gas cooktop or other? range top experiences?
Comments (25)@Design Girl If you buy a Wolf, get the longest extended warranty that you can get, don’t run the self clean and periodically wipe the bottom with a white paper towel looking for small blue shards. At least if you have issues the sooner you know it the better. The E with the dual fans has more oven modes including a convection bake Mode which for me is the most usable mode because of the slower fan. The M was built to deal with the chipping and has a bottom that can be removed by a Wolf tech for easier repair. the corner fans set up air currents along the side. Look at the thread on M that someone commented on recently....See Morekristine_ca
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