I'm stuck! Thermador, Gaggenau, Miele, Wolf .. a mix? Please help
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Yet another Gaggenau vs. Miele steam oven question....
Comments (21)(Cross-posted in other Miele Steam Oven threads) We bought a Miele DGC 6800 XL Combination Steam Oven (non-plumbed) and a few months later on a whim descaled the unit. Right after the descaling process, my Miele steam oven gives me a 'Fault 20' whenever I try to do steam cooking. The regular convection cooking works fine. Expected more from Miele. I wish I had bought something else! It's out of warranty even though we probably used it about 20 times. Now Miele is asking for $150 for a technician to come out and pay an additional $90/hr for labor + $ for parts!...See Moregaggenau vs. miele induction cooktop?
Comments (7)I've used both in showrooms, so can't speak to cleaning. I loved the knob on the Gaggenau enough to think it was worth importing the smaller one from Europe (mostly for the smaller, but if I didn't like it better I would have gotten the Miele). The Miele is great, but the thing I found really annoying was operating the controls. You have to hold your finger in the right place, and wait for the controls to respond. If you put your hand down the wrong way they do something funky (can't remember now, but I think it turned off). You have to hold the control rather than tap tapping, which is counterintuitive. Not that this makes the Miele bad! But the Gagg is cool. With the knob, you slide it like an air hockey paddle toward the element you want to control and pull it back to center. It's much quicker to do than to type. Then you turn it. It registers very quickly and you can turn from the top level around to the bottom, like on an old fashioned electric, instead of having to go back down. Re buzzing, clad pans are more likely to buzz, and pans with very little in them. It's the cookware that's buzzing, not the unit. My demos were in different showrooms, so conditions were different. Miele is very quiet (fan noise). Gaggenau is quiet, but I don't think it's as quiet. The wattage difference between the two is probably sufficient to be noticeable, on an objective basis, but probably not so much while you're cooking. That is, if it takes an extra half minute for your water to boil will you notice? On a superhigh heat application, like wok cooking, you might care. For that, duration of max power is as important as wattage....See MoreJennAir,KitchenAid,Miele,Thermador Help!
Comments (14)"Electrolux is pretty but is still a Frigidaire under the pretty." Electrolux OWNS Frigidaire not the other way around.Frigidaire is Elux's economy line! Does that mean they can't and don't make "Higher end" products?Of course not!!! I personally compared (3 of each) Miele ovens and Elux Ovens. The doors are thicker and smoother operating on the Elux's. Try pulling out a rack on both the Miele and the Elux, Only Now, is Miele beginning to use the glide out racks but I think only one is standard on their newest ones and you can buy the updated racks for the older ones now. Compare the display panel, The panel is much bigger , easier to read, and more intuitive on the Elux. The window glass is bigger and stays cooler than the Miele. Checks posts on performance of the two ovens. Elux uses actual temp sensors to tell when the oven has finished preheating, whilst Miele uses some kind of "Algorithym" if you check posts, you will see where some users say this "Algorithym" just doesn't work, when the Miele says it has finished it is no where near the temp you set it for. Read about the actual oven temps, Elux is right on the mark using any thermometer you wish. Reports here have said that the Miele can be as low as 50 degrees F from what you set it for, in fact one poster had the oven replaced and the new Miele still measured as her old one did. That can be dealt with using a "fudge factor" as far as baking goes, but is not necessary with the Elux, and in the rare even it is off by a few degrees, it can be calibrated via the wavetouch controls alto no users have posted the need to do so.The Elux is about half the price of the Miele! So Please read the various posts about the 2 ovens before typing such a statement as this: "Meile ovens are great and worth every penny." We've had the Elux Icon 30" oven/convection for more that 4 years now, trouble free, looks and cooks great, Antss and I are gonna "Do the Town" on the 2 grand I saved!! Gary...See Morewolf induction owners - help please! crying!
Comments (5)Not Much. I suspect you have a Pacific Sales in N Calif, like we do in S Calif. I ordered a 30 inch Electrolux Icon from them and had it a week later.I didn't havta call Electrolux, or the distributor for same, etc etc(Like I did with the fancy cooktop it replaced)--and that took over 6 months to get--playing the same kind of games that you are now. No venting issues with The Electrolux, as it vents around the side, near the top, alto have never heard it's internal fan come on, even using power boost. Was very easy to install, very good instructions including clearances etc etc etc. I did havta redo the granite, as I had got carried away with the "fancy Stuff" and had to replace a 36" semi-circle flush mount cooketop with the induction. But was well worth it, The induction makes that other piece of junk look like a toy, even thou it had all the "Goodies"--Timed burners, bridging burners etc etc. Sometimes it just a good idea to follow the "Kiss Principle" Find something that is easy to purchase is reliable and doesn't total your checking account. Good Luck! Gary...See Moredotsandstripes 123
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