Oh, ask! That's a great idea! lol I've been looking for them but haven't seen them so I just assumed they didn't carry them. Didn't think that it might not be quite the season (really new to this obviously). I will do just that. Thanks! Sandra

Mary, I was at Home Depot just last weekend, and they had several pots of Iceberg. This was mid-peninsula. It might be worth calling around. I was also at Regan's last Saturday and they had a lot of roses - it was the first day of their half-off sale. I don't recall seeing icebergs but I wasn't looking for them in particular. Again, definitely worth calling to check. In my small garden, iceberg is the only rose I have several plants of. They are simply spectacular in So. Cal. but aren't too shabby here in the Bay Area either. Mine get cercospora spots but are rarely out of flower. They are my workhorses. Jo

Straw wrote: "Khalid: Your roses look very good in high heat, nice colors and healthy foliage. My Just Joey looks really bad, blooms bleached out to beige, so I don't even post pics. I might move it to partial shade for better color. We are in hot & dry phase, up to 90 F, or 32 C." Straw: 90*F is not high heat for roses in my view. I mean in this temperature, my roses were performing very well. Could there be other (primary) reason for your Just Joey or any other rose not performing that well. I am not sure if 90*F alone is enough to cause deterioration in performance of a particular cultivar. I mean some mineral deficiency / excess or some issue with the soil that gets amplified due to rise in temp? Or could it be that my roses have slowly been acclimatized to perform better in heat? Just trying to understand what could be the reason for my Just Joey being quite yellow in 105*F and your's turning beige in 90*F. best regards PS: Sam, did you see the photos of Rose Biomes posted above? Jess: Alec's Red hasn't impressed me much. It is almost completely non fragrant since the temps rose above 100*F and is blooming sparsely. When I compare it's performance with many other roses, I would rate it quite low with regards to performance in summers though it performs much better when it is cooler. Sorry no experience of growing Christopher Columbus. I haven't actually seen it here.

@Fori -Thanks so much, I think that is a great solution for the bay area. I think we may end up going that route :) All of the fences in our neighborhood are supposed to be 6 ft but somehow most seem to be 8 or even 10 :) I was reticent to ask, because we get along really well and I didn't want to make them feel pressured to do something to the shared fence that they didn't want to, but I think that is probably the best idea!