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18 years ago

I am doing a dinner for twelve people on Saturday. One is a vegetarian ( I can manage that..I think), the other is a 16 year old vegan girl, who is fairly picky. Does anyone have any tried and true recipes, including dessert (preferrably something chocolaty)? She doesn't like salads. Likes steamed broccoli,carrots, a bit of asparagus.

Still waiting to hear about beans, grains, and other veggies etc. Any recipes you have that you know are great would be very appreciated!!

Thanks so much

Shelley

Comments (21)

  • 18 years ago
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  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    ok-a made up by me one-
    olive oil
    bay leaf
    can of white beans drained
    oregano
    basil
    garlic
    two cans of diced tomatoes
    bow tie pasta
    parm on the side for those who eat cheese.
    No magic to the amounts
    ALL teens like this one

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  • 18 years ago
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    Vegans don't eat chocolate. Have fresh fruit for her.

  • 18 years ago
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    Why don't vegans eat chocolate? milk chocolate I understand, but does regular chocolate have milk in it? Certainly cocoa powder doesn't.
    Linda c

  • 18 years ago
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    "Vegans don't eat chocolate."

    They don't???? Just make sure the chocolate you serve is not milk chocolate and doesn't have animal products in it, and there's plenty of good chocolates out there that fit that description, and I can't see any reason a vegan wouldn't enjoy chowing down on chocolate.

    If she likes steamed broccoli, carrots and asparagus, you could make a nice antipasto type platter for her with those veggies, and serve a good vinegariette with them. Have a bean dish sans meat, or a pasta dish like noodlesportland's, and she should be fixed up.

    Oh, I just remembered this recipe by Giada Delaurentis I've made before, and it's been well received by both vegetarians and non-vegetarians, and it's suitable for vegans. It is a salad, but not a lettuce salad, so maybe she'd go for it. The recipe calls for chicken stock, but I substitute vegetable broth instead. Swanson's makes a good organic vegetable stock that's sold in quart boxes. There are other brands out there too, or you can easily make veggie stock yourself, if you prefer.

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    In a medium saucepan, warm 3 tablespoons of the olive oil over medium heat. Add the garlic and cook for 1 minute. Add the couscous and cook until toasted and lightly browned, stirring often, about 5 minutes. Carefully add the stock, and the juice of 1 lemon, and bring to a boil. Reduce the heat and simmer, covered, until the couscous is tender, but still firm to the bite, stirring occasionally, about 8 to 10 minutes. Drain the couscous.
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  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Well, I know only two vegans, my cousin and my next-door neighbor. They substitute carob, which I find distasteful.

    Neither will go near chocolate because very few chocolate items are dairy-free; often they contain products such as dried milk powder or dried eggs, or are prepared in places that also prepare products that contain dairy. I guess I should have done a little research before I posted.

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Here are a few dishes that even your non-vegan guests would like.

    Lime-Flavored Rice Noodles with Cashews

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    1 t black, brown or yellow mustard seed
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    1 t salt
    ¼ t ground tumeric
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    I generally use more peas and cashews than the recipe calls for, more like 1/3 cup of each. The peas are very crunchy when the dish is made fresh, so if I am making this dish for people who are unaccustomed to them, I generally make it up several hours ahead of time so that the moisture in the dish can soften the peas a bit. I love the peas cruchy, but wouldnt want to be responsible for someones chipped tooth!

    Asafetida has a truly vile odor, but like garlic, it changes in a dish and really does add to it.

    Karhi leaves are very hard to find in this area. I get them in the Bay Area and freeze them, but they are an acquired taste, the cilantro being much more familiar.

    I have made this dish with lemon juice (add about ½ t sugar unless youre using Meyers Lemons) successfully, and once with orange juice. The orange juice not being as sharp, a small amount of zest added to the peas, cashews and chilies just before tossing the noodles in is called for.

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    **Roasted butternut squash. Peel squash. Cut into ½ inch cubes. toss in olive oil and roast in the oven, checking frequently until just cooked, but not mushy. If it doesnt brown at all, pass under a broiler after cooking just to brown the edges a bit.

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    Put all the ingredients except the sesame seeds into a food processor and puree until smooth. Stir in the sesame seeds, taste and correct for seasonings.

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  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I examined the wrapper on my bar of Belgian dark chocolate from Trader Joe. No dairy. There was a disclaimer that it was processed in a plant that also processed foods containing dairy, wheat, nuts, etc.

    There are companies that make vegan chocolate. I'm sure it's available at a health food store.

    Life without chocolate, how sad. Carob is NOT a substitute. It is something else entirely...

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Thanks everyone for the recipes, links, thoughts and advice. I agree carob is nothing like chocolate! I will have to check my cocoa tin and see what the ingredients are.

    Whiteorchid thanks for the links, I am going to check them all out.

    Noodlesportland, your recipe looks really good! I am stil waiting to hear back on if she likes beans or not.

    Sally, the meditterranean salad looks like something I would love.

    Rachellen, you have posted some wonderful recipes, thankyou!

    Again, thanks! I appreciate the help.

    Shelley

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    The old-fashioned crazy cake can be a vegan dessert and sprinkled with powdered sugar is generally well-received. It's not "gourmet" but it does fulfill chocolate cravings. There are many versions; this is just an example:

    Crazy Cake.

    The Foodday section of the Oregonian just included a feature on a personal chef who provides weekly vegan potlucks for a neighborhood group. There are several appealing recipes, including a coconut whipped cream that might be used to top a cake.

    Carol

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    My first thought was a chocolate mousse. This lady I met who's a raw food vegan told me about.
    I did a google search.
    She said the one she used was with tofu..but you can also use avocados..
    I have organic fair trade cocoa. I think I got it Trader Joes..but I might have got it at the HealthFood Store/co-op.

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    The Crazy Cake is great. I make it often in a bundt with a sprinkle of powdered sugar. Adjust baking time accordingly. This is a recipe from my childhood except that it was made in a single layer 8x8 pan at home.

    You'll never miss eggs or milk in this cake.

  • 18 years ago
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    Life with Carob is sad but so is life without nachos. (or t-bones :)

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Readinglady, thanks for the cake recipe. Exactly what I was looking for! Also thanks for the link.

    Terri, the mousse recipe looks great also, but she told me she doesn't eat actual chocolate, so I am actually saving that one to try on my family. Where does one get silken tofu? Great sounding dessert. I am going to make it but not tell my family it contains tofu and see what they think. Thanks!

    Barnmom thanks! The link readinglady supplied and a great rating for the cake, and with your reccommendation I am defiantely going to make it. I'll serve it with some whipped cream/mascarpone and berries for the non vegans.

    Great relief having the dessert covered! I could have done without it personally, but lots of people look forward to dessert and there are a few kids who always look forward to dessert.

    Bumblebeez how true!!lol

    Thanks guys!!!

    Shelley

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Please let us know how the meal turns out, Shelley. Some great recipes have been posted here, ones which we "occasional vegans" can enjoy too.

    Carol

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    So that's why so many labels have that disclaimer about being prepared where they also process dairy, nuts, etc.. I thought it was due to possible allergens. Well, it probably is for that reason.

    This thread is just another reminder of why I'm just a vegetarian, NOT a vegan. I'm way too much of a chocoholic to have to worry about whether the plant processed dairy or not. Sheesh.

    Shelley, I hope your party goes well!

    Sally

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Carol I will let you all know how everything goes.

    Sally I often wondered about the lables too. I figured they were allergies, but now realize, how important they are to vegans as well. Its amazing just how many things and ingredients we take for granted fall under the vegan category. Even vitamins, honey etc. My son was wondering if vegans don't eat meat/dairy etc because they come from living animals, how come vegans eat veggies and fruit which come from living things as well?

    Thanks again,

    Shelley

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Just wanted to thank everyone again for their help. Dinner was great. I had put out some different salsas and pita bread, taco chips and rice crackers, along with some hummus, and stuffed grape leaves. I made a pasta salad, a quinoa salad (vegan)with a curried dressing, spanish rice and beans (vegan) pork tenderloin with a maple orange rum sauce, spicy prawns baked in the oven, and tons of raw veggies of every kind. Dessert was a blueberry custard tart on a shortbread crust, and the crazy cake that Carol posted.

    Carol my son absolutely loved that cake, so thankyou!

    I think dinner went over well. There was enough differant things for everyone's likes and dislikes. I am not sure if the vegan liked what she had or not, and considering she is such a small eater it was hard to tell. She doesn't like salads and doesn't really eat grains, (although she did try the quinoa salad, although I don't know if she like it or not). I made the rice and beans with brown rice, and they went over really well, (although again not sure if she liked them or not). At least there were enough things for her to pick from, so I don't think she starved,lol. Everyone else liked the meal and everyone had a good time, which is what is most important.

    Shelley

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    A vegan who doesn't like salads and doesn't eat grains? Small eater? There may be more going on there than veganism, but not your problem. You went out of your way to accomodate her, really totally impressive! I would have been in 7th heavan!!

    Just wanted to add that silken tofu makes a GREAT no cholesterol sub for some dairy products. Not necessarily low fat or low sugar, but can be part of that kind of scenario too, if you use low fat tofu. (Soybeans do have fat, it's just unsaturated.) I use lowfat silken tofu and a lemon pudding mix made my Mori Nu, to make lowfat jam tarts. I also use the phyllo cups for the tarts. Dab of lemon pudding, dab of jam--easy as pie, lol! I make chocolate cream pie using tofu and my veggie wary friends never know the difference, (although they do have their suspicions, lol!). Which goes to show you that put enough chocolate in something and everybody happy! (well, not people who are allergic to it, which one of my friends actually is. I'm lucky that I can find organic chocolate and silken tofu in my local Webman's grocery store.) I've seen the tofu in most larger groceries, even in non-urban areas. It's usually near or in the produce aisle. It comes in aseptic containers so can also be found out on the shelves in whatever "health" food section there may be. A lot of folks on low fat diets or lactose intolerant diets use tofu, so it is not totally "out there" anymore. On the other hand, there are some people who are allergic to soy products!! As Rosana Rosanadanna said, "It's always something!"

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Thanks Lpinkmountain. I was going to make something with tofu, but she said she doesn't eat all tofus or soy products as some contain cassein? and or whey, in which case she won't eat them. I did buy her some vegan cheese as she said most of the ones she looked at contained the above ingredients and she wouldn't eat them, and this one did not, but it didn't go over flavour wise. Really hard cooking for someone with such dietary restrictions, and couldn't imagine doing it on a daily basis. Glad it was only once,lol.

    Shelley

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I was thinking the same thing as Lpink! Well really I was thinking what a fussy little PITA but I'm feeling ornery today. Cassein and whey are hard to avoid. I had to worry about this when my kids were small and hard lots of trouble with dairy. Vegan cheese shouldn't contain the above which are dairy ingredients! I know vegetarians who eat cheese are careful to avoid cheese with rennet and gelatin.

    Yep, that old chestnut of a chocolate cake is great especially if you use good cocoa. Your whole meal sounds delicious.

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