Please help - pan in 2nd floor laundry - what for?
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I need a reliable family laundry on 2nd floor--old house
Comments (6)hollylh... I can't comment on brand as you want stacking and I have Bosch which does not stack (unless you go with the "smaller" European models.... but I can comment on second floor a bit... mine are one the second floor as I pointed out before, middle of the house, in a closet in a bathroom... they face each other with about 4 feet between their fronts.... basically they are surrounded by walls on all 3 sides... My house is almost 18 years old, so it's typical northeast US 2x4 construction, circa 1990.... We have negligible vibration problems. Once in a while if I really stuff the load in the machine (too many clothes!) then I will get some vibration when the washer goes into its top spin mode... otherwise, you don't know they are running... 100 year old house, I'm not sure what the construction was like.... IF you're not sure, it would most likely be best to open up the floor and look at how it is done and then decide if you need to redo the area.... or possibly go with one of the smaller machine sets... part of the vibration issue has to do with the weight and the the size of the load getting flung around... smaller machines are not quite as heavy and can't hold as much wet clothes... therefore less momentum to cause vibration... My late FIL had a one piece unit, washer (FL) on bottom and dryer on top... I think Fridgedaire??? but I don't remember any more... but he had this on the first floor of a 100+ year old house with no problems... It certainly wasn't "mega" capacity... otherwise, you may need to revisit "stacking"... stacking and pedestals both will add to the "sway" of the washer......See MoreHelp with a 2nd floor laundry room and set up selection
Comments (6)At first glance the floor drain idea sounds like a pretty good idea, but when you think about it, the only thing seperating the inside of your lovely home from a filthy sewer, is the U-bend water trap in the floor drain. No problem if you flush it regularly, but if you let it dry up you're going to be waking up to the lovely smell of sewer gas. However, this would work if it can be connected to another drain, and then have both drains flow into a U-bend trap. That way the other drain would presumably keep the U-bend closed off. I'm not a plumber though, so please treat this as speculation, not a suggestion. As far as putting the washer in a tub is concerned, I tend to agree with your sales person. The risk is that it will lower the friction between the washer and the floor, and your washer will start walking all over the place. It's true that a washer on a pedestal is going to weigh 250 lbs plus, but the problem is resonance between the washer and the floor, not that the washer isn't weighing enough, because these resonances are specifically caused by the washer being so heavy. So, if you have a vibration problem with the washer, it's specifically because the 250 lb weight of the washer is interacting with your flexible floor. Weedmeister's suggestion regarding manual single handle water valves actually has quite a bit of merit, because if you think about it, you realize that you're dealing with probabilities here. Let's say for aurguments sake that the odds of you having a broken water hose is 100,000:1, and the chance that you would forget to turn the hose off is 100:1, you can calculate the chances of you having a flood as 10,000,000:1, and you've effectively turned the remote possibility of a flood from a broken hose into something that's impossible for all practical purposes. The trick lies in being able to train everyone who uses the washer to turn the valve handle to the off position after every wash load....See MoreLaundry remodel on 2nd floor
Comments (3)I am in planning stages for redoing my 2nd floor laundry area, so I've been looking into some of the same issues. Regarding floor drains, I don't think it matters whether you have access to an outside wall, as the floor drain can tie into the same drain line as the washer drain. If you want the floor drain to protect the entire room, the floor should be sloped to the drain, which means you need a mortar bed (aka "mud job") over the plywood subfloor, and then a waterproof membrane over the mortar. This adds cost and also would raise the floor by at least an inch. A less expensive alternative is to put the washer in a pan and attach a floor drain to the pan. This would handle most leaks -- for example overflows -- but not anything where water was spraying out from the washer and would thus miss the pan. The Mustee "Durapan" model looks like a good choice for a pan, as it has a removable threshold in front so you can slide the washer forward without having to lift it out of the pan. The Durapan is attached to the subfloor and then tiled around, so the tile and the pan bottom (with the threshold removed) end up at the same level. Regarding the floor strength: whether the existing joists are sufficient needs to be calculated based on joist size, spacing, and length. If additional strength is needed, the joists can be doubled up ("sistered"). However, the strongest and stiffest floor can still transmit some amount of vibration from the washer to the rest of the house. Anti-vibration pads (I am using "shake-away" pads) help, but some amount of vibration may be unavoidable. Note that a "mud job" under the tile -- for the floor drain -- should also dampen vibrations somewhat, as the inertia of the floor (resistance to movement) increases as the mass of the floor increases....See MorePlease help with 2nd Floor Laundry Room Design
Comments (24)I love our laundry chute, but note the last paragraph of the above cited Bob Vila article. Local codes might ban them as a fire hazard. Just check and be sure! Funny story...I had a friend who remodeled her 1920s home and closed up the first floor chute opening. She kept the one from her second floor down to the basement laundry room. She was doing laundry for a trip and threw all her “good” clothes down the chute to launder. They got hung up somewhere between the second floor and the basement! What to do? She called the fire department. They came with hook and ladder truck, firehats, etc. And pikes. Yup. They reached up from the basement and pulled all her clothing down....shredding it beyond redemption! Lesson learned! One. Item. At. A.Time!...See Moreauburnfan
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