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Cooking: Myths or Musts?

tmd15
13 years ago

Before the Food Network and cable TV, I used to watch cooking shows on PBS. There was an episode that I watched with an Italian chef that said you must always take any of the little green sprouts that form inside the clove or it it will make anything you are preparing taste bitter. Then there is the to wash or wipe with a damp cloth question, when you clean mushrooms. To this day I always take the little green sprouts out although my mother never did and she was an awesome cook. For years I gently wiped my mushrooms clean with a damp cloth even though some retaurants that I worked in didn't even bother to do either and the mushroom dishes were some of the most popular. I have a deep respect for those of you that post here; I am surrounded by some really good cooks whenever I visit this site. I was just wondering where you all stood on these cooking myths or musts. Do you have any others that you swear by or have busted?

Comments (118)

  • lindac
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    If you add vinegar to baking soda, or vice versa, it fizzes. That's what cleans your drain. If you mix the2 together and dump down your drain, the fizz happens before you get it to the drain.
    Vinegar will indeed clean soap scum from a shower...it is an acid which will help dissolve the alkaline soap scum.
    And vinegar will clean copper...the salt acts as an abrasive.
    There is anectodal evidence that vinegar will help arthritis. It has been used for such for thousands of years....and when something has been in use for that long, I tend to believe there is some truth in teh supposition even though there is no scientific reason why it should help.

    Now what was it we would put in the glass to produce the bouncing mothballs and why does alum keep pickles crisp?
    Linda C

  • Ideefixe
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I think if you're use to the taste of jarred herbs and spices, you're probably not going to mind keeping them for a while. So many people cook with dusty oregano or lackluster cinnamon that the taste of fresh or newly milled is nearly overpowering.

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  • BeverlyAL
    13 years ago
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  • annie1992
    13 years ago
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  • kayskats
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  • jakkom
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  • dcarch7 d c f l a s h 7 @ y a h o o . c o m
    13 years ago
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    "Posted by kayskats ---- but does salted water boil faster than unsalted?
    I don't know... just asking, but if someone covered this above I missed it. kay "

    Salted water boils slower. In other words, you need higher temperature to boil salted water.

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  • dirtgirl07
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • jimster
    13 years ago
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    Myth:

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  • jimster
    13 years ago
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    Oysters should be eaten only in months when "Oysters 'R' in season".

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  • lindac
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Must...oysters spawn in the summer ( months without an "R") and harvesting them depletes the supply.

  • rachelellen
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Actually, most oysters on the market are now farm raised, so depleting the supply doesn't really have anything to do with it. However, when oysters spawn, they convert about 80% of their body to sexual organs, which are watery and tasteless, so spawning oysters really have little flavor. They also look spoiled to some (though they aren't) with a milky liquid rather than the clear oyster "likker" we aficionados so treasure. So in areas where the oysters spawn in our Summer months, they often just aren't worth eating. There isn't anything wrong with them.

    The "months without R" rule more likely came from the days before refrigeration, when oysters spoiled so quickly in the Summer heat.

  • BeverlyAL
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    "Drinking milk with a fish meal will make you sick."

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  • jimster
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Linda, I can't figure out how harvesting oysters during the spawning season would affect the supply any more that harvesting at any other time. There are legal limits on the size of shellfish which can be taken, which protects against overfishing. Around here, oysters must be at least 3 inches long.

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  • jimster
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Beverly, that's a great myth about not drinking milk while eating fish! I had not thought about that in years. It used to be taken very seriously. Funny!

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  • dcarch7 d c f l a s h 7 @ y a h o o . c o m
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Is this a myth? Too many cooks spoil the broth?

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  • tmd15
    Original Author
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hilarious! Love the artwork!

  • jimster
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I say it's a "must", dcarch, and an excellent lesson for all of us!

    Jim

  • rachelellen
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    No fish and milk? I never heard that one. What about chowder???

  • jimster
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    That's right, no milk with fish. Who said it had to make sense? LOL!

    That rule was well known and respected when I was a kid. Right up there with no swimming for a half hour after a meal. Or was it an hour?

    The swimming rule has to do with eating and food. So how about some opinions on that? Will you get cramps and drown if you get back in the water too soon?

    Jim

  • BeverlyAL
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    It's one hour on the no swimming rule Jim. Of course I think we have to be real about it and not grossly overeat, then go in the water. Everything in moderation.

  • BeverlyAL
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I know this is OT and has nothing to do with cooking, but did anyone's else's grandmother tell them to quit hanging upside down because all the blood would rush to your head and it would kill you? Mine really worried about that when I was a kid. Oh and don't read by a low light because it will ruin your eyes?

  • jimster
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    No. I was never athletic enough to do stunts like hanging upside down.

    But I was told not to scowl because my face would freeze that way.

    Jim

  • shaun
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    One of my myths has already been addressed; drinking milk while eating fish.

    Another one was that eating pork close to bed time would cause you to have nightmares.

    I had the habit of crossing my eyes at strangers to make them laugh when I was a child so my mother told me that my eyes would get stuck like that, to make me stop.

  • jimster
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Unitarians put guacamole on their communion wafers.

    Myth or must?

    Jim

  • BeverlyAL
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    ROFL Jim!

  • jessicavanderhoff
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Annie, I'm fascinated by the difference in how we feel about salt. Salted tomatoes are my favorite food in the world, I have to throw away noodles if I forget to salt the water, and the first time I had a salted caramel truffle was life-changing. Takes all kinds!! :-P

  • annie1992
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Yes, Jessica, it sure does. I like my food to taste like whatever food it is supposed to be, not just like salt. I feel the same way about hot peppers, I want a little bit of heat, but not so much that it detracts from the food I put it into.

    Really, you throw the noodles out if the water isn't salted?

    Oh, and I rinse my homemade sauerkraut before eating it because it's just way too salty for me. Dad loved it right out of the jar. Probably why he was on blood pressure meds by the time he was 35.....(grin)

    Annie

  • dcarch7 d c f l a s h 7 @ y a h o o . c o m
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I wasn't going to bring this famous one up. I thought for sure someone else will. I guess not.

    When Aphrodite, the goddess of love, sprang forth from the ocean on an oyster shell and gave birth to Eros, did she also give oyster the power of the modern blue pill?

    Just asking :-).

    dcarch

  • jessicavanderhoff
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I like it to taste like whatever it's supposed to taste like too, which it doesn't, unless of course it's salty :-P.

    Yep. I got a couple of bites into a bowl of pasta and kept thinking 'something is seriously wrong with this pasta' and remembered that I'd been distracted and hadn't salted it. I wasn't putting sauce on it, just Parmesan, which wasn't cutting it. I am pretty careful usually, because it's massively disappointing. If I could smother it in salty sauce, I *might* eat it anyway. . .

    That thing about the BP meds is scary. I know you miss your dad and have an unfair family history of cholesterol and heart troubles.

  • lindac
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    There is salt and there is SALT...I can't stand canned soup nor things made with a packet of onion soup mix nor that flavor packet in ramen noodles.
    But I do want my pasta water salted.....and I love a handful of pretzels with some cheese.

    And dcarch you seriously have your classical mythology mixed.

  • dcarch7 d c f l a s h 7 @ y a h o o . c o m
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    "Posted by lindac ------- And dcarch you seriously have your classical mythology mixed."

    That of course is very possible. I was very young when Aphrodite was around. It has been a long time LOL!

    "--An aphrodisiac is a substance that increases sexual desire.[1][2] The name comes from Aphrodite, the Greek goddess of sensuality and love.---"

    "-----Eros (Ancient Greek: Ἔñùò, "Intimate Love"), in Greek mythology, was the primordial god of sexual love and beauty. He was also worshipped as a fertility deity. His Roman counterpart was Cupid ("desire"), also known as Amor ("love"). In some myths, he was the son of the deities Aphrodite and Ares, --------"

    In anycase, back on topic, what about the oyster myth? Anyone has found that it works?
    BTW, I am asking on behalf of a friend, not for me. :-)

    dcarch

  • BeverlyAL
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    A friend said the oyster myth is just that, a myth. ; )

  • rachelellen
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The oyster-as-aphrodisiac myth was a schtick invented by one caveman Oog, who lived on a beach next to an oyster bed. He didn't have much else, but figured he'd get rich if he could just market them the right way.

    So he told his buddies Droog and Moog they'd no longer have to beat the women over the head with clubs to get them into their caves if they just ate a lot of these slimy, unappetizing, rather disgusting looking blobs. Big Magic.

    Men were men, even then, and though neither Droog nor Moog fared any better with the ladies, they didn't want to admit it and told tall tales about their conquests, and Oog's future prosperity was ensured.

    That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

  • dcarch7 d c f l a s h 7 @ y a h o o . c o m
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    " Posted by rachelellen ---------- Men were men, even then, and though neither Droog nor Moog fared any better with the ladies, they didn't want to admit it and told tall tales about their conquests, and Oog's future prosperity was ensured. "

    The long and the short of it, indeed, Oog the oyster shyster did very well. He made a lot of clams. Using his wealth, he later on started another venture to market Rocky Mountain oysters.

    dcarch :-)

  • cloudy_christine
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Aphrodite floated on a scallop shell. A much prettier background than an oyster shell! The most famous image is Botticelli's Birth of Venus, Venus being the Roman equivalent of the Greek Aphrodite.

  • Rusty
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Dcarch, so THAT'S how the oyster myth got started? ?

    Rusty

  • rachelellen
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I wonder, are Rocky Mountain Oysters supposed to provide the same...er....benefit as regular oysters?

    I did see slices of "Bull Penis" for sale in a Chinatown specialty meat market once. It was explained to me that eating it enhances virility. Not needing such enhancement myself, I passed.

  • teresa_nc7
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Oh, dear, I'd hate to be caught staring at those items in Chinatown.....

    And now back to our regularly scheduled program.....

    what about putting cheese on pasta with fish dishes? is that the same as not drinking milk and eating fish at the same time?

  • annie1992
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Teresa, you're right, here it's very commmon to have fish specials in the restaurants on Friday and it's invariably accompanied by macaroni and cheese, which I never did really understand.

    Rachelellen, I've eaten oysters and I've eaten Rocky Mountain oysters and neither one seemed to do much for me, or my date at the time. Yeah....

    And I'm not eating either one of them again, if I can help it, so my research is finished.

    Annie

  • rachelellen
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Lol@Annie.

    I just thought of another one. When I was a kid, my grandmother and mother both insisted that if a cake was in the oven one had to just about tiptoe around in the kitchen and not make any loud noises lest the cake fall.

    I have since baked cakes with all sorts of commotion going on, and I've never had one fall.

    Was there a reason behind this insistence on quiet & tiptoes or was it just a way to get kids to be quiet for a while?

  • lindac
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The bit about fish and milk is called "Christian Kosher"...LOL! But the difference is those were from Grandmother not God.
    And you can make a cake fall by jarring the pan at the quintessential moment. I have seen it happen by taking a peek and slamming the oven door....but perhaps it was the blast of cool air that did it.

  • jessicavanderhoff
    13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Is it some certain kind of cake? My mother used to say it for pineappple upside down cake, I think.

  • dcarch7 d c f l a s h 7 @ y a h o o . c o m
    13 years ago
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    If you are making popovers, openning the oven door can collapse the popovers.

    dcarch

  • jojoco
    13 years ago
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    When I was a kid, we couldn't jump if a cake was in the oven. Probably angel food cake. My trick to flatten out cookies that are rising too much (usually chocolate chip), is to open the oven 2/3 way throught the cooking time, raise and end of the pan, and bang it down on the rack. Cookies instantly flatten out. So, I have a hunch, at least with a cake like angel food cake, a direct hit like the cake pan jarring, might deflate it. Shouting...not so much.

    Half myth, half must.

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    I wash the residue off mushrooms, they are often grown in a compost that while sterile have wheat straw -- and I stay far far away from anything with wheat! I love tomato with salt and pepper. I clean my cast iron with salt and half a lemon -- which is fantastic!


    My favorite saying from Mom was about the starving children in China. I can truthfully say if I didn't want to eat whatever she was pushing that a child in China wouldn't have wanted it either!

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