**WOW! To score a grafted plant that is already 2 meter high! ** Yes! One of the most important and older rose nurseries in Italy, Rose Barni, has a good collection of Old Climbing Roses, that are availables only potted, "ready for flowering" as you can read in their catalogue :o): these are a 2 years old plants, grafted on R. laxa, ad average 2 meters high, sometimes more than that, depending on the variety's vigour, in pots of 18/20 cm ( 7" 1/2). Last spring, I bought from them a 'Cooper's Burmese', which is now more than 5 m (17') high LOL! Lady Hillingdon is in a pot, because I was thinking to have bought the bush form, but now -first year- she's 2 meters high, climbing up a pillar, so I think I have the climbing one. Not so bad, there's so much more to enjoy!! :o)) Hoov, I will take many pictures, ok? :o)) The "orange" splash colour in the picture above, under my selected Miscanthus sinensis seedling, is a Chrisanthemum x rubellum 'Lady Anne Brockett': it's a delightful variety, very long flowering. The colour change as the flowers mature: they open in coppery apricot, then changes o salmon-peach, then pink... ;o) ciao! Maurizio PS: I was discussing by now about this thread with a friend, which has a rose nursery, specialized in rare, historic and old roses. "You must to have 'Chromatella! I'll present it to you". So, this is the story: I will have soon also 'Cloth of Gold'. But definitely NOT have the space!! What's the solution ...? The mother and the son, maybe togheter, in a soft yellows' hug? Sounds nice....!!

Good morning, would love to be able to do a OB in coordination w/ both of you but....I think I am a little too far away(Knoxville) and most importantly, although saving some money sounds great, OB seems like too much of a headache for me. I also don't have the confidence in my knowledge to carry that out. But, I certainly don't mind doing what to spread some of the info. I have collected so far if it helps you make some decisions. I think Alabama,GA, TN areas the markets for pools are similar. Unfortunately, I think yes, one could probably get a pool built in Florida for 20K less than here. Many more PB's there driving the market, also I think it is easier to excavate there(I might be guessing on that) but know it is sandier,less clay than here. The options one PB gave me for pool finishes are Marcite(included) Diamond Brite 4,500 Pebbletec 6,000 Durazzo 6,500. Of course that was for a 41x19 free-form, 3-10ft, so it is not comparing apples to apples. To do that I would have to figure surface area and break it down. The cost for that pool was to 70,500 which included everything but the decking. I had pavers priced, but he gave me option for broom finished concrete, which was $7 sg.ft. As I said, I couldn't afford that one, but it did include alot of upgrades, electric heat pump 8' diving board Letro pool cleaner SWG Durazzo finish Pentair 30"Sand filter and all the assumables like lights,skimmers, drains, excavation, plumbing, etc. Another pool builder priced a 20x 40 gunite rectangle at 50,000 here. including about 1,000 sf broom finish concrete gas heater(I don't want a gas heater so would have to add $$) SWG sand filter dive board and all the assumables. Have you considered a vinyl pool?? Nowadays, you can hardly tell the difference between a gunite and vinyl if you get a cantilever coping, vinyl over step and you have more money that can be put into decking or landscaping. Here a middle of the road price for a 20x40 rectangle 3.5-8ft deep was 41,000. Would be less if you want gas heat instead of heat pump, and that included 1104sg ft broom finish concrete, vinyl over step, SWG,dive board, heat pump, sand filter, skimmers, etc. I understand that a vinyl pool may be a little easier to heat and a little easier to keep the chemicals balanced. When polled, my sons said they actually like swimming in friends vinyl pools better. I don't think I will go vinyl since I need a more custom pool to fit in my space but I would definitely do vinyl if it would work for us. Takes a lot less time to install as well. Well, wish I could spend more time here, but have to get going, part two of celebration weekend, taking second son off to college today. If you have specific questions regarding costs of any options let me know, I will be getting back to this site late tonight probably.

oh my gosh jennifer it took my up to a year just deciding on a wall color. Now I am searching for a ceiling and I just got started. It started with using the same wall color but lighter for the ceiling. I didn't like it though. Then to Manchester tan. Then Frappe af-85...oakwood manor 1095...sandy white 2148, now I am on Hush af-85 and jute af-80. Each one I looked at for over a week. With the samples and the large white boards you mentioned. I know what a painstaking process this is lol. I don't know whether knowing the about the undertones, warm/cool makes it any easier. Now I am unsure about jute and hush with my wall color. I have new choices now. BM Twisted Oak path and chatsworth cream, maybe even Abingdon putty. I need a miracle to help me with all these choices. I want it to be perfect and feeel right. I know there are a lot of people right here on these forums going through the same thing.

@eam44, yes, we have tile now. The builder has to tear up our floors to repair our foundation. There will not be any tile once they're done with the repair. My daughter has a permanent dent in her forehead from falling from a standing position onto the tile floor. It's tile over a slab. This house has a huge straight staircase that scares me to death. This pic doesn't show how high it is but the house has high ceilings and it's a straight drop down to the tile. I've fallen down steps onto carpet and I've been injured. If my daughter fell down these steps onto the tile, the same tile that left a permanent dent in her head, it could kill her. So I want something more forgiving than tile. I know I could put a rug down but I still prefer a softer surface.