Maurizio, your photo practically made my heart stop! Exquisitely beautiful, wonderful design with perfect plantings. I immediately added this to my permanent rose files for inspiration and pure pleasure.

Oh yes, I almost forgot your question. As always I must recommend Cl. Lady Hillingdon, frequent bloomer, colors that blend with anything, nodding flowers, lovely foliage, practically disease-free, fragrant and carefree. As companions Ley's Perpetual and Celine Forestier might be good choices.

Thank you again for making my morning beautiful and memorable.

Ingrid

Maurizio, Souvenir de Mme. Leonie Viennot is much too large for your pergola. It is a rampant grower, largest of the large, and not a rebloomer.

I would say Reve d'Or is very much a winner in this part of California, very floriferous and pleasant, easy to grow. I note, however, that the rose we grow is not yellow but a soft apricot cream, and does not match the historic descriptions of this rose as deep buff or copper yellow. So we cannot be at all sure that the rose you will buy will be the same cultivar as the rose sold to us in the USA.

You should have no concerns about the shades of yellow of any of the Tea-Noisettes. The color will soften in the sun. If you can buy a healthy Maréchal Niel or Duchesse d'Auerstädt, either would be delightful in your garden. The third yellow Tea-Noisette is Alister Stella Gray, softer, more apricot and fading more to cream, a less formal bloom, lovely.

Here is a link that might be useful: Alister Stella Gray at HelpMeFind

My vote would also be for Reve d'Or, but Crepuscule is another worth considering. Similar color, not as good form, but I think it may bloom even more. S de MLV gets huge, while Marechal Niel lacks vigor unless grafted (even reports from the 1800s when it was a new plant say that.)
Of course, you could put more than one rose on a pergola.

May I just say that the picture of your garden is amazing. If I have a garden that looks like that one day, I'll be a very happy woman.

But moving on to your question. I have been doing research on a similar topic recently, as I was looking for an apricot climber, but to go over an arbor (8'x4') rather than a pergola. I spoke with several nurseries trying to decide on what to get, and here is a summary of their views.

B&B: Bouquet d'Or and Reve d'Or grow nonstop and will get to be about 15'+. Buff Beauty would easily get to 10' and take about 2 seasons to fully cover my planned arbor. William Allen Richardson prefers to be a shrub for them rather than a climber.

Rogue Valley: Buff Beauty and Mme Jules Gravereaux are more beautiful than Reve d'Or. BB and MJG would be about the same size, while Reve d'or would be a much larger climber. Note that Rogue Valley's MJG may be the pink climber that is pretty much the norm in the US rather than the apricot one that is grown in the other parts of the world.

Antique Rose Emporium: Bouquet d'Or likes a cold winter. Reve d'Or will get massive. Buff Beauty would stay around 10' and they thought that Crepuscule would also do very well.

Roses Unlimited: Crepuscule and Reve d'Or get very large. They had the pink MJG which did not do well for them at all. Buff Beauty does well and is on the smaller side.

Vintage: Bouquet d'Or and cl. Lady Hillingdon would be the largest. All of the climbers in this group repeat well, but Crepuscule blooms continuously while Buff Beauty blooms the least. Crepuscule has the smallest blooms of the lot (I believe cl. LH has the largest). Crepuscule and Bouquet d'Or probably hold their color the best. And in a later e-mail about the apricot Madame Jules Gravereaux they said that it has great rebloom, but can get get mildew in wet springs.

Obviously we were looking for slightly different things in a climber (size being the most noticeable thing), but I thought this might help. In looking at Alister Stella Gray it seemed more cream/white in the heat rather than apricot, and I read that it did not drop its dead blooms cleanly, and I didn't feel like deadheading a climber. I ended up getting a Buff Beauty along with some free cuttings of Crepuscule. I'm still debating on MJG because the pictuers of her are just GORGEOUS.

There was recently a thread on MJG entitled "A most underrated climbing tea" that you may be interested in.

Looking forward to seeing the pictures once your new project is done.

Anne-Lise

Here is a link that might be useful: A most underrated climbing tea

Anne-Lise, what an outstanding summery. Thank you for such exhaustive research.

hoovb, does Alister Stella Gray finish badly?

The petals turn a light brown. Eventually they fall off, but not right away. So, yes, I think it does finish rather badly.

And since it blooms here 12 months a year, I must deadhead it quite often.

But on the other hand, it does bloom 12 months a year.

I am eyeing MJG too, it looks so beautiful!

Maurizio--Here is a picture of Marechal Niel at Vintage Gardens toward the end of last spring. I think that the yellow is a little darker in the picture than it actually is in my garden.

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MN is growing over an arbor along one of the many pathways at Vintage and the roses are nodding down on the visitors.

Lady Hillingdon bleaches to a not very pleasant off white in the heat here, so I see those beautiful egg yolk colored blooms only in spring and late fall (when they usually ball in my humid climate).

Marechal Niel gets huge very soon, at least if it is a grafted plant. If you donÂt have thrip or botrytis problems (in your climate I doubt that you have botrytis blight), he is glorious. It is my very best bloomer along with Crepuscule. He starts in early April and is still loaded with buds now, at the end of November. The blooms do nod and it is not a very harsh yellow, so I doubt that it would clash with your breathtaking landscape.

Sorry for uploading many not very good photos but I wanted to give you the "real picture" of the color variations.

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Thank you all guys, I really appreciate your suggestions and opinions! :o) Anne Lise, your list is very helpful, than you so much!

I think it would be more and more a challenge to pick out the best one... I would like to plant all those beautiful Roses, but the garden is exploding under my crazy overplanting!
Firstly, I was thinking to plant another 'Lamarque' in the pergola, the spring flush is amazing and the foliage looks healty and pleasant so long, but I have 2 Lamarque in the garden and, even if I love them totally, I "need" (!) to plant something different :o)
I love 'Souvenir de Mme Léonie Viennot' flowers too, she has the same kind of scent of Lamarque, that spread in the air. Berndoodle, you say she's a once bloomer? No reblooming at all? What a shame... :o(
'Alister Stella Gray' is a lovely Rose, but a too short growing one for my pergola. Here in Italy isn't simple at all to find the real one, there's a lot of confusion with 'Claire Jacquier', wich is much much more larger, and just a once bloomer.

Jbfoodie, thank you for the picture of 'Maréchal Niel', I would love to see those gorgeous flowers hanging from my pergola... if the colour will get paler under my sun, it will be an advantage. She reblooms well?

I've seen many picture in the forum of 'Reve d'Or', and they looks exactely like the 'Reve d'Or' we grow in Europe. I fear that she can bee too similar to 'Solfatare', so I remove her from the list.

Grazie mille!
Maurizio

My Marechal Niel is still young, about 2 years old now. He had a wonderful spring flush, some summer blooms here and there and another smaller fall flush. I expect he will bloom more and more often as he ages. Ceterum mentions above that MN blooms continuously. My MN is own root, not grafted, and about 4 feet wide by 3 feet tall at this point. I am hoping for lots of growth next year.

I'd just like to put in another plug for Lady Hillingdon. In your climate which I think is similar to mine she may not fade to a dirty white; for me she just becomes a softer yellow/apricot color. Ley's Perpetual is praised by everyone who grows it, although I'm not sure that it would be available in Europe. Also, have you considered Austin's Malvern Hills, which is a repeat blooming rambler?

Ingrid

Jb, I am sure it will bloom much more as it matures. My Marechal Niel is grafted and it reached the top of the wagon wheel in its first year and started cascading down. I am very much afraid that it will outgrow its place by next year, and I have no idea how I would accommodate that. I should have planted him to the pergola instead of a smaller wagon wheel.
I just looked out of my office window because I wanted to see that we really got some rain. I could count 20+ buds and blooms on one branch of MN! He must have a couple of hundred buds right now though a lot will ball due to the rain.

I seldom see those deep yellow blooms here as in your picture taken at Vintage.
These blooms were the deepest yellow blooms taken right after the big Easter freeze
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In my climate and very hot sun the blooms bleach to a much softer yellow and often have peachy tones. In my previous post the branch, the 3rd and the last photos were also taken in April 2007.

Here is the strangest MN bloom, color caused by botrytis, IMHO.

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What about GLOIRE DE DIJON? It has all those multiple shades of buff, cream, apricotty gold, dawn pink, etc. that make the Tea-Noisettes so desirable. The quartered flower form is stunning too and the fragrance is legendary. I even read somewhere that the European clone is a much stronger grower than the whimp we have here in the states. If I lived in Sardinia then GdD would definately be my choice. It is a classic.

Here is a link that might be useful: Gloire de Dijon at HelpMeFind Roses

You're right, Molineux! Gloire de Dijon is a must to have. And ... I already have it, in another corner of the garden. ;o)

Ingrid, Thank you for your suggestion, but I have to say the same for 'Lady Hillingdon Clg.', which is on a big pot in the patio area, near the house. I must to put her in a semi-shaded position, 'cause flowers bleaches to a pale buff-white in summer heat (but are gorgeus in autumn and early spring!).

Ceterum, your pictures are gorgeous, and you have totally convinced me. This morning I've ordered 'Maréchal Niel' from a local nursery: they will send soon to me a potted, grafted plant, average 2 meters ( 6' 1/2) high. I will take a picture of the plant as she arrive

Cannot wait to see the effect!! :o)))

Ciao! ... and Thank you again!
Maurizio

WOW! To score a grafted plant that is already 2 meter high!

I hope you will be happy with your choice Maurizio otherwise I will be the one who should be blamed.

It's interesting that you keep Lady H. In a pot - so do I so I can move it to the porch when it is very hot and humid (humid - that you do not get!) in summer.

I cannot wait seeing your photo!

Molineux, Pickering's Gloire is not a very bad clone - Paul Barden, I seem to remember, also got his plant from them.
Too bad that you oppose grafted roses so strongly.

Cannot wait to see the effect!! :o)))

We want to see it too! Remember to post some pictures please. :^)

BTW, what is that little splash of pale orange in your picture, in the upper left quadrant, just below the Miscanthus(?) grass?? Looks so lovely...

**WOW! To score a grafted plant that is already 2 meter high! **

Yes! One of the most important and older rose nurseries in Italy, Rose Barni, has a good collection of Old Climbing Roses, that are availables only potted, "ready for flowering" as you can read in their catalogue :o): these are a 2 years old plants, grafted on R. laxa, ad average 2 meters high, sometimes more than that, depending on the variety's vigour, in pots of 18/20 cm ( 7" 1/2). Last spring, I bought from them a 'Cooper's Burmese', which is now more than 5 m (17') high LOL!

Lady Hillingdon is in a pot, because I was thinking to have bought the bush form, but now -first year- she's 2 meters high, climbing up a pillar, so I think I have the climbing one. Not so bad, there's so much more to enjoy!! :o))

Hoov, I will take many pictures, ok? :o)) The "orange" splash colour in the picture above, under my selected Miscanthus sinensis seedling, is a Chrisanthemum x rubellum 'Lady Anne Brockett': it's a delightful variety, very long flowering. The colour change as the flowers mature: they open in coppery apricot, then changes o salmon-peach, then pink... ;o)

ciao!
Maurizio

PS: I was discussing by now about this thread with a friend, which has a rose nursery, specialized in rare, historic and old roses. "You must to have 'Chromatella! I'll present it to you". So, this is the story: I will have soon also 'Cloth of Gold'. But definitely NOT have the space!! What's the solution ...? The mother and the son, maybe togheter, in a soft yellows' hug? Sounds nice....!!

Maurizio, could I ask you for a huge favor?

Would you please take detailed pictures of Cooper's Burmese and post them on HelpMeFind? Barni probably got the rose from Roseto Botanico 'Carla Fineschi.' That rose is very rare, and no one is sure if it is real. We'd love to see the leaves up close, any hips, the blooms, the canes, all of the botanical details. I took a few poor pictures at the Roseto Botanico, where the roses must be kept fairly small. Rosa laevigata hybrids are so extremely rare.

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Cass

Cass, it's a pleasure for me.
I've just added two pictures, taken the last spring, on HMF. Let my know if there's any mistake in my comments. I will take a pic of the foliage, thorns(!!!! ugly thorns) and canes soon, but the following year I hope to have much more to share, especially of the whole plant in flower with the Rosa banksiae 'Purezza', which I grow togheter.

....and when you'll come again in Italy? :o)

Maurizio

Maurizio, I am coming to Sardinia in June. I hope that's a good time to see your garden. The place we might stay is in Porto Cervo. If it isn't close to your garden, well, we will find a closer hotel.

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Cass

That is an exquisite planting! I love the grasses with the grey-green shrub behind -- is that a dwarf olive? I think you can grow all the beautiful yellow tea-noisettes that are too cold in my microclimate (coastal southern Cal atop a windy hill). I would recommend William Allen Richardson, a little smaller bloom than R d'or with a lovely orangey eggyolky center. Also, Crepuscule which loves heat. Allistair S. Gray blooms very very well, but does finish badly (looks like tiny dirty kleenex). I also like Bouquet d'Or a lot, but haven't been able to really get it going in my chilly garden.

Also, if you want a softer yellow, I love climbing Lady Hillingdon. It blooms constantly and has very beautiful burgundy-colored new growth. I have to keep it in a very warm sunny spot in my garden or it just languishes. But, with lots of heat, it's wonderful and the color is very creamy. Also, the yellow Lady Banks rose is great for covering structures and basically evergreen. The spring bloom lasts almost 2 months, and there are at least 2 repeats, tho small (it's blooming again right now).

Mudbird, thank you for the suggestions!

But I've already decided, and the Maréchal is just arrived!
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The following week end we'll start with the pergola (I HOPE), but I've already planted the Rose LOL!

Cass, that's a very good news! June isn't May, but it's still very good for the garden. I'm pretty far away from Porto Cervo (North-East of the island), it needs approx 3 h and a half to fall down from here to my garden (southeasterner coast), but you really need to discover the Eastern Sardinia's coast, from North to South, which is much more beautiful (and very less expensive!!) than Porto Cervo! You MUST to see Baunei's coast in Ogliastra, Cala Gonone, Cala Goloritzè, Cala Luna... it's amazingly beautiful.(If you need any information for your trip, please don't hesitate to ask,email-me ;o) !)

Ciao:o)
Maurizio

Maurizio, your garden almost stopped my breath it was beautiful in every dimension. It takes more than money and land to create a garden like that, it requires a beautiful soul. I am so pleased to see this garden of yours. Although you have absolutely decided here is a little rose with a romantic storey. Ghislaine de Feligonde was a young Countess whose husband rode in the cavalry for France during WWI. A messenger arrived to tell her that her husband was missing in action in the no man's land between the two forces. No one had gone looking for him, it was considered extremely dangerous. There was no ceasefire. She asked for the coordinates and called for her horse. She brought him back and restored him to health. At this time a lovely young rose had been entered in an international rose show in Paris. It had no name and could not be entered without one. Her storey was the breaking news and her name was given to this lovely little rose with the nodding head and the subtle range of white to apricot which reblooms and wafts its scent.
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It is to the left in the rear behind Lyda Rose, twisted around an obelisk.
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What you have chosen is beautiful, I just wanted to show you this one.
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Oh, I think the Marechal is a very good choice - in photos, it looks like the most beautiful yellow rose in the world! I would grow it if it would open here, but based on the weak performance of most yellow teas & tea-noisettes here on the west coast , I don't think it would be very happy nor would the flowers open well. It will look splendid in your lovely garden -- enjoy!