Quick source of nitrogen around the house?
no_regrets
17 years ago
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Removing a Tree Stump with HIgh-Nitrogen Fertilizer?
Comments (32)in this setting.. they are NOT talking about bagged compost.. aka manure ... this composted product is useless for this job .... they are talking about what is freshly scooped out of the barn which is high in urea [which is the old fashioned basis of high nitro fert . the NATURAL version... rather then the chem version] .... it comes out of a different part of the animal ... lol ... it is the raw product ... and by the time you get it delivered ... cost might be prohibitive ... in the alternative.... a high N fert would be 49-0-0 .... sold in places like tractor supply.. or any high end nursery ... but even that.. the key to rotting wood.. is water ... the nitro is barely relevant ... if you cant keep the wood wet ... in my sand.... it can take a decade... for a stump to rot naturally ... on 5 acres... i have no hurry on removal ... but have added the nitro to huge wood chips piles.. to speed decomposition ... the problem with my sand.. is that it is bone dry for about half of the year.. when it isnt frozen solid in MI ... in other words.. my rotting season is short ... i kill ALL my stumps with generic RU ... but you dont want to hear about that ... i think it is speculative to try to kill a tree with the nitro .. not saying it cant be done... but i dont know how it can be accomplished ... many suggest a trees root system is twice as large as what you see above ... and if thats the case ... one might ask ... where is the best place to apply such ... and what you will end up doing to the soil if in fact you do kill the tree ... it MIGHT end up.. a scorched earth ... think romans and carthage ... [boy thats obscure.. lol] all that said.. we also dont know what tree ... if its a suckering tree ... juicing it with fert.. might only result in you ending up with hundreds of them... all over the place ... your base problem.. is not that you want to save money ... in my reading.. the issue is you want it done FAST .. and wood simply.. does NOT ... rot fast ... no matter what you do ... to speed wood rotting.. you chip it into the smallest possible format... thereby increasing surface area ... and you dont want to do that ... many answers here are extremely optimistic .... IMHO .... again.. in my sand.. i would say... 7 to 15 years ... at least ... and the harder the wood.. the longer it takes ... i have no idea.. why you posted this in a design forum .... you might want to try other forums .... good luck...See MoreDon't forget your nitrogen!
Comments (31)Hi Sherry, Have you ever tried adding native nitrogen-fixing plants to your rosebeds? I don't know much (like zip!) about Florida natives that fix nitrogen, but I found a few pretty quickly on a Google search--the small partridge pea (annual) and Elliott's milk pea (perennial). Both of these were on the website of the Florida Native Plant Society (link is below). Maybe this wouldn't do a lot, but it might give just a little boost to the soil so your roses could possibly benefit from mini snacks throughout the year. I use a variety of nitrogen-fixers in my garden. Many are California natives, with some non-natives that like the climate here. I have palo verdes (love this tree so I have 3 Parkinsonia 'Desert Museum'), Lotus scoparius (deerweed), Lotus crassifolius otayensis (Otay lotus), pink fairy duster (Calliandra eriophylla), Santa Catalina Island Mountain Mahogany (Cercocarpis traskiae), lots of California lilac (Ceanothus cyaneus, spinosus, tomentosus, 'Snow Flurry', 'Zanzibar', 'Lemon Ice', 'Diamond Heights', 'All Gold'), as well as non natives like white Bauhinia, various clovers, Austrian winter peas, birdsfoot trefoil, etc. Guess I'm just a lazy gardener who would rather not have to add stuff to the garden if the plants can do my work for me.;) My plants are lucky to get a little fish emulsion--although a small number get a mild powdered organic fertilizer occasionally. Many plants I feed nothing. Don't know how successful this would be in a much different climate/soil. Here I have mostly sandy loam, with some strips of the garden being clay or sand. Both the soil and water are alkaline and rainfall is low. The only problem being that the city water is high in boron with varying effects on plants. Melissa Here is a link that might be useful: Florida Native Plant Society...See MoreNeed A Quick Fix for Nitrogen
Comments (12)It's the best place in the world to grow trees so long as it's the native trees you're trying to grow. they're already adapted to the local soil and water conditions. Your garden trees are from other conditions and won't necessarily do well in heavy clay. We have the opposite problem here. We have some of the most valuable timber growing land in the world here in western WA, but garden plants struggle to survive in our gravelly sandy soils - the same soils that produce some of the largest and oldest trees in the world. Worms are not native everywhere. If your land was recently cleared of native forest, and you have no worms, they're probably not native to your area. Worms tend not to like coniferous forests and I think East Texas is pine forest country. Try planting locally native stuff! I bet that will grow well. And lay off the compost and manure in the planting hole. You created clay pots in the ground when you dug out a hole in the clay and filled it with compost and manure. Clay pots with no drain holes, no less. You can mix in some compost with the clay backfill if you insist, but you should not totally replace the native soil in the planting hole. I bet that has something to do with your trees not growing well. If the land was clearcut and bulldozed, the soil life is probably all dead now. Compost tea will help it grow back (not alfalfa tea). Micorhizal (sp?) products can help too. Trees need micorhizal fungi in the soil in order to grow and removing the native trees and disturbing the soil usually kills them all off. Many trees are not able to pick up soil nutrients and water very well without their fungal partners. Clay soil should have some nitrogen in it, after all. It may not be a nitrogen deficiency at all. Your story suggests some more likely culprits....See MoreQuick check - is this an approved source/recipe?
Comments (6)I guess it does sound more like a chutney than a relish... so the ale is an acidifier too, right? If it looks dry to me, I would add equal parts of vinegar and ale maybe, or even more ale than vinegar?? It is meant to be spooned over sausages, bbq, or in sandwiches etc so it can't be too runny. I'm glad it would be considered a safe recipe. What about the book in general? Is this a good source, or is it hit-or-miss? I haven't purchased this one yet, wanted to get opinions first (and test out a couple recipes) to see if it is worth buying....See Moreno_regrets
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