No one knows for sure as the original source is quite young itself, less than 20 years old I believe and maybe closer to half that. Speaking offline with Arktrees, they capable of vigorous growth typical of a happy redbud so ultimate size may be around the species average but it's all a guess right now. They are also now taking selections from Rising Sun offspring and applying for patents. I found the following patent searching for 'JN2' which is the Rising Sun. John Edit: I read the patent and it was a branch sport on a Rising Sun growing in a field of RS liners, not a seedling that led to this new selection. It's trade name is Solar Eclipse and SoonerPlantFarm has it for sale HERE Here is a link that might be useful: Rising Sun branch sport patent This post was edited by j0nd03 on Tue, Aug 27, 13 at 12:31

I'm having some Kootenai-source wild-type Thuja plicata seeds mailed to me from Lawyer Nursery. When they found out I only wanted about 50 seeds, they volunteered to send them to me at no charge(!) -- what great people! I'm wondering how best I should go about germinating them, and found this thread. I'm curious how honymand scarified them, as they seem to have had some success. Abrasive, kinetic, chemical, etc? Beyond that, I was thinking of a 1-week refrigerator stratification in a ziplock bag containing a piece of paper towel, lightly dampened by a mild 1% hydrogen peroxide solution, with the seeds placed on one side of the towel so that they're visible and in contact with both the moist towel and the air in the bag. I would then take the bag out and keep it in a dark place until roots become visible in the bag. The bag will be checked periodically for germinated seeds, and whenever one is found, it would then be laid apon the top of a mixture of approximately 40% peat, 40% composted manure, and 20% loose fill vermiculite with time-release fertilizer in seed trays. An additional half centimeter of soil would be laid upon it, and the plants watered from underneath. The plants would then be grown indoors in my LED grow room until they look sturdy enough to be gradually introduced to the outdoors. I'd probably also have some seeds undergo slightly modified versions of the above process, just in case I do something wrong. Does this sound like a reasonable approach? Also, any scarification tips would be recommended.

Steve, are you sure theres not something else youd like to have since Im sending the Callirhoe seed anyway. It wouldnt cost anymore to stick a couple more little packets in! Ill probably send it out the beginning of next week, so post here or email me if you can find anything on my list youd like to have. And Ive come up with a new possible germination method that Ill email when I send the seed! I still have Lavatera seed left from last year, so Ill just keep trying with that. If you do happen to find some from this year and have time to send it, that works too, but its not necessary. BTW, Im gonna be in SLC! Ill be there for 40 minutes on Christmas Eve! Hehehehe! Ill expect you to buy a ticket to somewhere so you can get thru security to come out to the gate to give me a baby plant!!! ;-) Seriously, if you have a couple seedlings next spring, after it warms up so they for sure wouldnt freeze in the mail, you probably could pad them with a little bit of moist peat and send them. In the meantime, if I ever get germination, Ill let you know! I havent gotten it done yet, but Im still planning to plant some directly in the ground outside to see if normal overwinter conditions will do the trick! Autodidact and Bean, I didnt get the purple coneflower seed collected before it snowed a couple nites ago. The snow has melted off now (beautiful day! It was 70 in my backyard today!), so I brought some in to dry the rest of the way. I leave on a trip tomorrow for three days, and by the time I get back it should be ready to send, so itll go out, probably, next Monday. Ill email after I put it in the mail. Isnt there anyone else around here whod like some free seed? Check out my list above. DELETE the Acanthus, since it apparently didnt produce seed this year, and ADD Aruncus dioicus, goats beard. See pictures of the things I have available at the thread linked below. AndhallelujahPMs are apparently working for me now, so if you want something, just PM me, but still post here that you didjust in case I dont get it! Happy seeds, Skybird

Please, see the new thread for all wish lists posted as well as games and fun... link below... Blessings, Angela Here is a link that might be useful: Secret Santa Swap, thread 3