Amazing Climbing Rose Suggestion
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Suggestions on Replacement Climbing Rose after Rose Rosette
Comments (8)You have my sympathies with RRD! Been there. (Actually, more accurately: being there right now...) #1. I recently had to find the answer to question #1 for myself. The answer I received indicated that 99.99% of the time, one year is long enough to wait for replanting in the same spot as far as coming down with RRD again goes, because if the infected rose is going to regenerate from its infected roots, it will almost surely do so within a year. If it does regenerate from its infected roots, of course, any mites in the area would have the capability of passing the infection to the newly planted rose. You don't necessarily have to wait a year, but you are taking a greater risk if you don't wait that long. I'm going to wait a year. #2. I'm not sure about the answer to #2, except that I know the answer is unrelated to Rose Rosette Disease. The potential reason to avoid using the same hole would be a concern for Rose Replant Disease, which sometimes (or maybe even frequently) does occur in England. I don't know whether it happens on this continent or not, or if it does happen whether it happens frequently enough to worry about. If it were actually sometimes a problem here too, two years would be long enough to wait on replanting in the very same hole. But along a fence, you probably could just easily move the new hole over a bit anyway, right? #3. My Cornelia Hybrid Musk, before succumbing to RRD, liked to throw out extremly long canes that were beautifully flexible and had a zillion little stems with buds on them. So I think Cornelia would be nice on a fence, and it's as beautiful a rose as you can imagine. It's also likely to have fewer disease issues than Golden Showers for most people. (However, it appears that you were quite lucky with Golden Showers there, so maybe you might want to think "Don't fix what ain't broke!") Lots of Hybrid Musks might work. Some: Wilhelm, Prosperity, Bubble Bath, Lavender Lassie. Some other possibilities (that I don't have experience with, but have seen recommended by others): Felix Leclerc, Soaring Spirits, Goldfinch, Rosarium Uetersen (Seminole Wind), Abraham Darby. I do have (a new) Climbing Iceberg and that might work well for you, even though it can get blackspot. New Dawn is supposed to be easy to grow, though it does have more thorns than some other choices. Mortimer Sackler ought to work well, as long as you don't count on too much distance (lovely, fragrant, low thorns, healthy). I'll enclose the link to Help Me Find's website so you can search on whatever varieties you might be interested in. Best wishes, Mary Here is a link that might be useful: HelpMeFind rose search...See MoreSuggestions for Climbing rose
Comments (8)Well fancy that - another vote for Crepuscule from me...if for no other reason than it's colouring...which would fit rather well against those soft brick tones. As a plus, Creps is a very forgiving rose with a generous framework which will loll about, fulsomely, against the brickwork while obligingly hurling out a few nice flexible canes to extend it's presence. Not sure what you mean by longevity but it is dangerously enthusiastic in my garden, hopefully persisting past the autumn frosts, bravely hanging a few blooms till Xmas...and I have seen a few aging specimens - (benefits from a sporadic bit of brutish hacking every decade or so) but can largely be left alone. However (there is always one of those) I have seen it looking a bit miserable when it is dry at the roots...and it does have a tendency to mildew (but this might not be an issue in Tx) I suspect I would be avoiding some of the more strident pinks or reds, but possibly some of the deeper reds might be good for you - Etoile de Hollande, Guinee - although I am rubbish at any of these which always look spindly, mean and are swinish to grow gracefully. YMMV obs but, having only failed with these climbers (they always look so...precious...and finicky but most of all, sparse), Might also be tempted to tuck a cheerful annual such as mina lobata or the little amber climber - ecremocarpus scaber somewhere while Crepsuscule fills out. If you have a sunny aspect, Gloire de Dijon - rubbish rose for me but well grown in heat it is glorious indeed...and finally, to finish off on another warm apricot note, I would be expecting Ingrid to chime in with praise for climbing Lady Hillingdon....See MoreClimbing Roses in Zone 5 (thanks for your suggestions)
Comments (16)Wonderful photo of John Davis, Twros, and thanks for the tips about getting it to climb. Like Mad said, mine has struggled to survive and grow beyond knee height for some time now, but it hasn't hit the magic 4 years mark yet for a climber. Good to know that it appreciates feeding. In my yard, mbrad, I've found that John Cabot is the more reliable and enthusiastic climber, and it's rock solid hardy to the tips in a zone 4 pocket of my yard. For the first 3-4 years, it was mostly a once-bloomer with a few scattered blooms here and there, but now that it's mature it's starting to get some repeat flush blooms on and off in the year. I'd definitely recommend that one as the best climber of the four you list. Among the others, I agree with Mad that Cecile Brunner is a long shot to survive in zone 5 (I've never overwintered one with several tries), but if it does survive it's likely to be a shrub rather than climber. Give it a protected spot and hope for the best. Laguna will climb well and is mostly cane hardy for me, and it's a dark pink color that will highlight the other colors. All of your roses are in the pink family (Laguna & John Cabot are dark pink, the rest are light pink) so I think any combination of them would look fine. Next to John Cabot, Colette is the other most reliable climber in zone 5. It takes a while to get established and climb well - give any climber 4 years to get settled in before you judge its characteristics - but it has repeat bloom on and off throughout the summer. I think JC, Colette & Laguna will climb well, and JC is the one most likely to cover your arbor. For companion plants, I'd be very cautious about a grape vine. You'll notice that on your honeymoon (congratulations by the way) the pergola had only a grape vine on it. My experience has been that grapes don't share real estate well. My neighbors have some inherited vines along a shared fence line, and the grapes TOTALLY invade my vegetable garden and have mostly shaded out my tomatoes. Wouldn't take much, as it's only a part shade situation, but grapes don't play well with others. I'm happy to rein in the grapes and I love those neighbors, so we're discussing strategy for this year. Instead of grapes, I'd plant a clematis on each end of the pergola. Clematis bloom in the heat of summer when the roses are taking a rest, so it means extending your bloom season. There are some lovely clematis and they tend to be easy and LOVE our midwestern soils. Jackmanii is a common one that's around most places and it's a dark purple that would set off the other colors nicely. Clematis are totally easy care in our zone, and they're more of an instant gratification of something to cover the pergola (but give it a year or two to settle in still), while you're waiting for the roses to mature. Syri - my experiences with Japanese Beetles is that they'll eat whatever is convenient (like deer do), but they prefer flowers. There are other things that will eat the grapes themselves, including birds, but I haven't found that the grapes are all that interesting to the Japanese beetles if there's something else they like better (like all my roses). We'll look forward to seeing pictures, mbrad! Good job doing your homework on your roses. Cynthia...See Morecane hardy climbing rose suggestions for zone 5a
Comments (17)Tammy, if your heart is set on Eden, I would try it. I didn't expect much, but they have exceeded all expectations. Minimal winter tip damage. They bloom all season, definitely more than I expected. I have 3 that ranged from 5-7' tall in their 4th year, full sun, and another that was about 8' tall in it's 3rd year, with a little shade. All own root. I get a good snow cover all winter and hot, dry summers. I have alkaline soil. It's been my experience that French roses don't mind alkaline soil as much as US bred roses do. I didn't buy Eden for a long time because I didn't think she would live through winter, but she's tougher than she looks. I don't winter protect. The blooms are big and petal packed. No fragrance, but with blooms like that, who cares! Moses, z5/6, says good things about Lady Ashe, aka, Dixieland Linda. Another climber (and spreader) that took off like lightening for me is Peggy Martin, but she does want to go lateral as much as vertical. Lunar Mist is a very reliable climber in cold zones. Voles got mine, but I'm planting another one this spring. Isabella Skinner, aka, Victorian Memory, another Canadian, fills the bill, too. John Cabot may be a little taller than John Davis. I have both and find JCabot climbs a bit better, at least for me....See Moremonsoon99
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