'Anna Olivier' is one of the Tea Roses that was recently added to the collection at Roses Unlimited. I think Pat's first plants of that variety were available for purchase last spring. I suggest that you email to inquire/reserve.

I have 'Lady Roberts,' and whether they are the same or not, this is one of the most-disease-resistant immature Teas I've had here.

Jeri

They are definitely not the same plant. But I think only one of them is in Australia, and it varies in color and fullness, making a correct ID difficult. If I recall correctly, in the US, there was a plant of AO found in the Sierra foothills many years ago by Joyce Demits. That was the only source for plants of it sold in the US before 2005. Two other plants were found by me in Santa Cruz, and some of us here grow the plants propagated from them, but that isn't available commercially. Another plant was found in Santa Rosa in 2005, and it's possible Vintage propagated that one. A rose that I think was found by Sherry of B&B Nursery appears to be Lady Roberts, and is being spread under that name. I saw Barbara Oliva's plant of it and agreed that it was Lady Roberts. It is sometimes fuller than Anna Olivier, and both vary in depth of color, so there are times it would be difficult to tell them apart. I think this LR is probably what they've found in Australia. There is another rose called "Bermuda Anna Olivier" which is not Anna Olivier, but could be a lighter sport of it, or another rose completely. The plant at the Heritage Rose Garden of BAO died before the Santa Cruz plant arrived there, so I can't compare them directly.

Jill

Jill - Vintage's Anna Olivier came from cuttings form an ancient one in my garden in 2005 (not in Santa Rosa but in San Rafael).

Deb - do you ever get out to the West Coast? I now have 3 Anna Olivier plants in my garden - one is the original, which we estimate to be at least 60- 70 years old, and the other two are plants I rooted from it. It has been identified by Vintage as the correct AO. If you ever have plans to come out here and let me know several months ahead, I would be happy to root cuttings of it for you. Or, you could just take cuttings yourself if you would rather.

Jackie

Dearest Jackie,

I don't think I will ever get out to California. I've actually never been farther than the Carolina's in all my 51 years. But thank you so much for the offer. How I wish I could go over, I would love to see your roses and see some of the West Coast.

I wish we could smuggle some cutting through the agriculture police! Thanks again, you are so kind to offer!

Deb :o)))

Helpmefind.com says that Lady Roberts is a sport of Anna Olivier, if that helps (or muddies) things.

Thanks, Jackie. I tend to get those two Sans mixed up.

Diane- yes, that's well known, but I sometimes wonder if the roses that have been found are other sports of Anna Olivier (or a sport of LR, for that matter), rather than being Lady Roberts. LR is supposed to just be a color sport (deeper color), but the one sold under that name is sometimes very full, and AO is not, so it isn't just a color sport. And then there's the one from Bermuda which has less color. So the waters will remain muddy, for now.

Jill

debn,

I really would like you to get your 'Anna Olivier' because the roses from a Santa Cruz bush, of an Anna Olivier that were brought to the Old Rose Celbration were full of petals, a marvelous blend of deep peach, apricot-yellow and rich pink roses, the most fragrant Tea rose I've ever smelled, of fruit and rose.
I encourage you to ask for permission to take cuttings, and from my own experience, I've learned to tell a little about myself so that the supervisor will be assured I will not be hacking a rosebush.
I've been given permission to take rose cuttings by the supervisors of 3 out of 3 public rose gardens, that I asked, after writing to them and telling them that
I've grown hundreds of different roses over the years and that I'm interested in propagating and conserving Old Roses.
-I'd treat their rosebushes with the utmost care and respect.
-I promise to take no more than 3 cuttings per square yard of plant. This is far less than is removed when most roses are pruned, and the little growth I would take, will typically grow back by summmer.
-I promise to take cuttings from only non-patented roses.
I ask the supervisor to sign the paper so I can show it to the groundskeeper or whoever is in charge on site at the garden.
signed___________________________________________
all three supervisors at the 3 gardens, let me take as many cuttings as I wished and one man told me I could return year after year to take cuttings. I've propagated more than 80 rosebushes from those cuttings and given many new plants away.

Best wishes
Luxrosa

Oh, Deb, I forgot to say that Long Ago Roses has an apricot blend 'Anna Olivier' on their list. Can't tell if they have her in stock. You might give them a call.

Sherry

Here is a link that might be useful: Long Ago Roses

Has anyone purchased 'Anna Olivier' from RU? What's with that one?

Deb, I just had a horrible thought - what if Goodwood is relentlessly sending you "Spice" when you ask for "Anna Olivier" because their mother plant IS Spice, and is mis-identified?

Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that if you look up AO on Help Me Find, you will find several pictures of it from Cass. These are all pictures of the correct AO. Just wanted to make sure you know what the real one looks like, so if you do ever find a source, you can be sure it is the right one.

Jackie

Jackie, you are just so sweet and precious to still be thinking of this with me!!! Hugs going out to you!!!
No, they have the real Anna Olivier because I have seen the Mother bush and have "caressed" it! That is the reason I want it soooo bad because I swear, it was the prettiest shaped bush and was literally covered in those big blowsy pink blooms. It just took my breath away.

I still can't believe someone has made the mistake of labeling cuttings wrong! Even the leaves of Spice is totally different from the Anna Oliviers plant. I swear I am taking my felco's with me when I go to Tallahassee again! LOL .....with damp paper towels and zip lock baggies!!!! hahahahaha

Thank you again Jackie for giving this some thought!

Deb :o)))