Let's talk hybrid musks
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Comments (8)Sammy, how did you prune your Penelope in previous years? I belive with roses, as with many other bushes (for example lilacs, mock oranges, etc) it is important every year to cut some of the older canes. If you, for example every year cut all canes that are older then 3 year old, your bush will always send new shoots and never will be "old". The problem that you describe is usually typical for people who don't do sufficient prunning each spring. Of course now, you can't cut out everything that is old, it will be too much of a change for your plant, but if you do cut approx 1/3 of older growth, fertilize and supply plenty of water, when there is no rain, most probably the bush will send new basal breaks. Just keep doing it every year and eventually you will get "yonger" bush. Based on my experience, I don't believe in H Musks being too sensitive to pruning. At least in my climate, pruning doesn't harm them at all, if you supply adequate water, they will respond with vigorous growth and will be stronger with pruning. Olga...See MoreLet's Talk About Hybrid Musks
Comments (48)You might ask the folks at the Antique Rose Emporium, with their experience with roses in the south. They offer a lot of Hybrid Musks. This information probably isn't very directly useful to you, since a rose's performance depends so much on climate BUT I wish to put it on the record that a happy mature plant of 'Cornelia' is one of the most flawlessly beautiful sights in the entire rose kingdom. Like any work of art it's greater than the sum of its parts. About the habit of the Hybrid Musks, some have a shrubby self-supporting habit, for example 'Felicia', while others are like pocket ramblers, with flexible canes that are easy to trellis: 'Cornelia' falls into this class. You can grow it without support, but it will lounge, like 'Buff Beauty' in the photo above. Melissa...See MoreMy no spray report on chinas, hybrid musks and bourbons
Comments (33)One thing I have noticed is that not all Teas are created equal. While Duchesse de Brabant (who is now in rose heaven) not only quit blooming but lost two thirds of its canes in the heat, Souvenir d'un Ami has beautiful full-sized buds and blooms and even another younger band of the same rose now has buds on it. It would make sense that roses with fuller, thicker petals would do better in the heat. But then how to explain Souvenir de Germain de St. Pierre (hope I got that right), a rather young band that has semidouble fragile blooms, has already bloomed once and has buds on it now? And this is a rose that gets only hot afternoon sun! I think I'm just going to stop trying to figure things out and enjoy the idiosyncracies of my roses and let them do their thing. It would be too boring if they were all alike anyway. Might as well have a square plot of hybrid teas and call it a garden. Eek! Ingrid...See MoreRobin Hood hybrid musk--pros and cons?
Comments (7)Hi Kate I have several Robin Hoods, or at least some Rogue Valley free roses that I've identified as Robin Hood, all growing in part shade under limbed up pine trees. I think the BS resistance for me is quite good. I can't say they're spot free, since a few spots here and there don't bother me, but they keep all their leaves and don't look ratty and nasty like some roses can. Given that they're in part shade, that's a good thing in my world. As for size, mine seem to want to be about 2 feet tall and about 5 feet wide, but they're only in their second or third year, so I'm not sure about mature height. They definitely seem to want to fountain out, but since they've stayed short under these conditions I'd describe mine more as "sprawling" than "fountaining". It's possible they're reaching for the sun, but they'd have to reach several more feet for actual direct sun in these locations. Mine are free standing, but mixed in with other part-shade plantings, so they mostly droop over and around other plants without smothering them (yet). Rebloom is probably the biggest sacrifice under these conditions. The picture below is from some Robin Hoods I have in the neighbor's yard in mostly shade, among leaves you can see from Lenten Rose and bleeding heart plants (so you can tell it's shady). This bloom was nice, though you can tell it's a plant you can't deadhead enough to keep the clusters totally clean, but I've only seen scattered bloom since then. I might have had another cycle or so in my yard under the limbed up pine, but not as full as this. That tends to improve with more mature plants, but I don't think I'm going to get robust rebloom under these conditions. Still, it's more color than I tend to get in a shade garden, particularly from roses. And the foliage is mostly that clean still, if a little scrawnier in the heat of July and early August. Hope this helps Cynthia...See Morelavender_lass
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