Sudden rose death
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Comments (15)Thanks everyone for all of the good info! We just dug up the stump, and I am sorry to say that "We have met the enemy, and he is US!". There was not any sign of galls on the roots or anywhere else. However, some of the main roots were completely rotted, and there were fungus fruits 1-2 inches under the soil all over - they looked like small squashed grey mushrooms - yuck! When we took out the jade plant, we put in irrigation, which was part of our automatic irrigation system. I am guessing that that bed was WAY too wet, and basically that rose just rotted. When my DH cut up the 3 inch in diameter main canes down near the bud union, they both were dark brown in the center. So, we dug up the soil, and replaced it with new soil, and I went to look for some sort of fungicide drench to pour over the new soil and the rest of the bed. Then I plan to leave it until next Spring. I went to my nursery (it is the one described at the Sac Cemetery rose symposium as "the oldest continuously operating nursery in California" - the West End Nursery in San Rafael). The owner is very knowledgeable about many things, although they do not specialize in roses. He recommended "AGRI-FOS, which is a systemic fungicide that can be used as a spray or a drench, and kills many different fungus diseases. You can also use it to soak new plant roots in before planting. He said that anything else that might work is illegal in CA, as they have made most of the chemicals illegal. He laughed and said that they cannot make this one illegal, as it is the only thing that works to prevent sudden oak death! So, we got some and drenched the area. I disconnected the irrigation, which is turned off now anyway. We will see what happens to the little polyantha rose - if it is still OK next Spring I am planning on planting a Reve d"or to replace the GS. Jackie...See Moresudden death of Azaleas
Comments (4)Sudden death of azaleas and rhododendrons is almost always caused by Phytophthora Root Rot which is caused by poor drainage. The normal prevention is a raised bed with good soil and good drainage. There is no cure. Here are the possibilities: 1) Root strangulation. This is best prevented by proper root pruning when planting. If the plant is not too far gone, it might be rescued by digging and removing the soil. Then cutting any circling roots that may be strangling other roots. The roots need to be opened up. On larger plants, some of the top must be removed to compensate for the weak state of the roots. Any time the roots are exposed, they must be kept moistened. Roots that dry out will die. This could very much be your problem and pulling up the dead plant and looking at the roots will allow you to find out. 2) Phytophthora Root Rot or wilt. This root rot is the major killer of rhododendrons and azaleas. It develops when roots are growing in wet conditions. The rot is more prevalent in warm summer conditions. Plants infected with crown rot caused by the fungi Phytophthora have roots which become clogged with brown fungi internally. The roots get blocked and the plant wilts and dies. There is not much of any cure for crown rot. Some varieties of rhododendrons are vulnerable (Chionoides, Catawbiense Album, Nova Zembla) and some are resistant (Roseum Elegans, Scintillation, PJM). Sphagnum moss and bark dust combined with good drainage seem to prevent crown rot, but do not cure it. This could very well be your problem. 3) Drought. It may have simply dried out. If you plant rhododendrons or azaleas in late spring, it is very important to give them some extra water while they are growing new roots. Never let the soil completely dry out' it's best to keep the soil evenly moist. Too much water or poorly drained soil might be another explanation of sudden rhododendron or azalea death. Rhododendrons and azaleas have very fine, fibrous roots that are easily damaged by waterlogging, even for short periods of time. This is probably not your problem since it normally affects one branch at a time and not the entire plant. 4) Voles. Voles, also known as meadow mice, may have chewed on the bark and roots near the crown of the plant. Sometimes they chew all the way around the trunk and kill the inner bark, resulting in death of the whole plant. Keep mulch away from the trunk to discourage voles. Looking at the trunk the dead plant will allow you to see if this is your problem. 5) Bark Split. The bark may also split when there are wide fluctuations in temperature in the winter. Rhododendrons and azaleas may begin to come out of dormancy if late winter weather is warm; if a cold snap follows, bark injury is likely, especially in sunny, exposed sites. This normally occurs in the winter becomes apparent in the spring. 6) Borers. Rhododendron Stem Borer, Oberea myops, or Rhododendron Borer, Synanthedon rhododendri, is in a branch, the entire portions of a plant beyond (away from the roots) will wilt and die. Borers only affect the portion of the plant away from the roots from the borer. If the borer is in the main trunk, then the entire plant will wilt and die. The plant can be save by cutting off the area with the borer and letting the plant regenerate from the roots. There are no conventional insecticides that will kill stem borer larvae once they are inside the branches. The best control option for homeowners with only a few plants is to prune out and destroy wilting branches in early spring or late summer. This is probably not your problem since it normally affects one branch at a time and not the entire plant....See Moresudden rose death?
Comments (4)lesdvs9, it was just the foliage. Today I noticed that a few green leaves seem to have revived. I'm guessing that the "cultivating" chopped off too many roots. It's not my yard, and when the neighbor asks, I give free advice. I've offered the same free advice (including the tip to water, fertilize, water) more than once over the past few years, but even when I talk directly to the guys who are doing the work, they smile and nod, and then do whatever they've been doing (language barrier), so it's a Sisyphean task. If I'm around when they dig up the rose, I'll check the roots. That is a good way to figure out what happened. The neighbor is eager to replace it....See MoreSudden death of husband of 34 yrs
Comments (13)While I was at my daughter's I did alot of reflecting on our marriage and wrote a lot of memories in my journal. The hardest part about being at my daughter's was sitting at the table with an empty chair staring me in the face that Ed should have been sitting in and also when we went to Estes Park walking around the shops I wanted to hold his hand like the other couples but his hand wasn't there for me to take and it never will be again. I also asked myself in our marriage who needed the other person more? I leaned on Ed for companionship and security. When we were in crowds I'd only feel comfortable if I was with Ed. Carrying on a converstaion with others was hard for me, but Ed could talk to anyone about anything and if I was with him I felt part of the conversation without saying a word. I may have made the everyday decisions but we talked about big decisions together until we agreed. At which point Ed thought out how to make it happen. There were usually compromises made on one of our parts, who compromised the most I don't know. But when it came to large purchases for the house I wanted Ed to enjoy it too & I didn't think it was that important to force my view or it was easier for me to give in than to decide what I really wanted. Also in our marriage I was the one who took charge, I planned and made lists and I'd give Ed a list of things he needed to do so whatever was planned would be accomplished. Whether it was one of the many times we moved, a holiday or just company coming for dinner. In reality I think he didn't care because then he didn't have to make a decision. The only time he didn't like things planned out was on vacation or day trips and we still had great times. I used to think this was a weakness but realized it was because he valued and trusted my opinion and judgement more than I realized. I tried to make a list of things I liked, but all I could think of was things Ed liked because it seems that is what we usually ended up doing or we compromised and thinking back than neither of us really got what we wanted. My biggest question was concerning my lack of being able to show emotions, as I may have mentioned because of my crying my children are now seeing a side of their mother they never knew existed. My mother used to say of all of her children I was the only one who didn't want to be cuddled. Ed was the compassionate one. I wonder can an emotionless person drain the emotions out of another person so that person could no longer show the other person emotion? Another thing I realized was that we had been in a mostly contented phase of our marriage until I started a new job in Oct of 2008. At which time I became very discontented and frustrated and I thought that is was because of Ed, when actually it was the responsibilities of the job. I wasn't used to the pressurers of that type of job and I took it out on him. Why is it we don't see our circumstances this clearly until it's too late? I hate the struggle between my heart, that wants to remember only the wonderful loving person he was a long time ago and my head that keeps reminding me of how miserable we both had been these past years. Which do I listen to? I realized I had to listen to both and continue with this conflict until I can make the two into the truth. I have to remind myself it's only been seven weeks. Again, thank you for letting me give a voice to my grief. Karen Anniebear I'm so sorry about your friend. I hope you continue gardening and don't give up on wanting to be a Master Gardener it is very rewarding. I also hope you will complete your project, keep us all up to date on its progress. Most important wish your husband a Happy Birthday from all of us. I was writing some information on my calendar this evening and turned to December and saw the Anniversary sticker I had placed on the date of what would have been our 35th Anniversary and I bawled because he won't be there to celebrate it with me ever again....See MoreKippy
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