Madame Isaac Pereire
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Is this Rose Rosette on 'Madame Isaac Pereire'?
Comments (6)That looks very much like freeze damage that I get here in the spring all the time. If those canes were freeze damaged last fall they may never produce normal growth and will eventually die back. Although from your pictures the canes themselves look green and healthy so I'd give them a chance. I'm sure you've probably already had some frosts this spring as well (and we're expecting one here this weekend, oh joy!) so any really tender new growth could still be damaged again. This is my least favorite time of year for that reason. Keep it on the porch so it's more protected and give it some time. I think it will be fine. As for it not leafing out as quickly as the others, every variety has it's own time table for that. Some will pump out new growth at the first sign of any kind of sun or warmth and others will wait for it to get really warm, or hot even, before they budge a millimeter. Don't expect them all to react the same way to any weather conditions. Like children, they all have unique personalities!...See MoreMadame Isaac Pereire blooming
Comments (8)That is a lovely photo of Mme Isaac Pereire. Thank-you for sharing it. I used to grow her in my garden in England. She got to about 8 feet, although I wouldn't have called her growth habit tidy. But when those blooms open, you forgive any drawback. She is so lush. My garden in England was about an 8 or 9 zone. Daisy...See MoreMadame Isaac Pereire vs. Souvenir du President Lincoln
Comments (9)I can't say much about it, since it came as a band only this Spring, but another possible alternative in a similar mold could be 'Mme de Sevigne'. I got mine from Long Ago Roses after my 'Mme Isaac Pereire' bit the dust from freeze damage. I emailed Linda asking if she had an extra MIP available, and she recommended I try MdS. It might not be the original rose, but whatever it is, I like the looks of the (few) pics of it on HelpMeFind. Another long-caned fragrant Bourbon in a similar "look" would be 'Deuil de Dr. Reynaud' (which also might not be the original, and might be the same rose being sold as 'Philemon Cochet'). I've never seen it (nor PC), but I was looking into them when I was trying to pick out a long-caned fragrant Bourbon. I did buy 'Souvenir du President Lincoln' (or, at least, the rose being sold as such), but I gifted it to someone back in Buffalo. This was its second year in the ground. I'll have to find out how it did there. There's also 'Souvenir de Victor Landeau' but I don't think it'll grow to be as big and "climber-ish" as the others mentioned. Vintage Gardens gives it a different growth habit, and the one I have here is doing more of a "sprawling, self-pegging" type of growth habit -- canes grow up, grow long, then bow down from their own weight, and bloom all along their length the following year. It's been very vigorous for me, coming as a band in April 2012. It finally went in the ground this Summer, and also bloomed for the first time this year. I have some pics of it below (taken with an iPhone, so pardon the less-than-stellar quality). August 2012 (four months after receiving it as a band from Vintage Gardens). Those upright canes in the pics below later bowed down on their own: April, 2013...just leafing out, one year after receiving it as a band. That one cane shooting straight up arched down like the others during Summer: Late May, 2013...first wave of blooms weren't fully double, but were fully fragrant: Mid-June, 2013...with more buds about to bloom (this wave was fully-double). Notice the cane that was straight-up is already leaning to the left: Just to the left of center, in front of the stones and behind the log edging, taken August 31, 2013, it's finally planted. It's hard to see against the leaf litter mulch, but SdVL has canes arching out to the sides and forward. In fact, the cane draping over the log-edging is actually the cane that was originally growing straight-up in the earlier pics: Another shot of SdVL, here just to the right of center (look for the white name tag with two blue patches from the cardboard under the mulch sticking up), and you can see the long canes arching out from it. The "white" flowers in the pic belong to 'Souvenir de la Malmaison' behind and to the left of it. There's one cane shooting up on SdVL now, but by next year, it will also (likely) arch down on its own: :-) ~Christopher...See MoreMaggie or Madame Isaac Pereire?
Comments (5)I grow both Maggie and Madame Isaac Perrier. Based on your photo and your description of the roses rebloom cycle, I believe that it is Maggie. It also appears to have loose petal formation which the Maggie I grow also has. The MIP has the more stuffed petal look if that makes any sense. MIP in my yard is also a deeper rose color. If you post a whole bush shot and perhaps a close up pic of the leaves it would be easier to know for sure. Hope that helps. Jeannie...See MoreJamieHarris1790
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