Evelyn - Size and growth pattern in my med climate?
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Comments (20)I live near San Francisco, in California , which also has one of the few Med. climates. We have 3-4 months of continuous drought, each year during summer, so water preservation is a concern. Any plant i list here regarding water use, is a mature sized plant. Drought tolerant: I've never watered any of the Mexican Sage, which were on my property when I bought it, because they never need it. Long flowers of a deep lavender hue attract hummingbirds every day. c. 5 feet tall by just as wide. There are many forms of salvia that are drought tolerant. - It took me a long time to take to Succulents, but after I remembered my grandmothers growing ' Hens and Chicks' in her cottage garden, I added a dozen or so to my rose garden. I have several growing in a low bowl shaped container to show off their growth habit. I find their smooth texture adds interest to a rose garden. Pomegranite I keep mine to c. 5' tall by 6 feet wide, by never watering it. Since reading that the climbing rose, 'Sombruiel' is drought tolerant in our area, I plan to move mine so it is in the same bed as the Pom. Mexican Primrose, pink flowers that bloom nearly constantly through summer. plants are about 2 and 1/2 feet tall. can be invasive if given the right conditions. -Allysium, the white form has longer roots and needs less water. -Many of the native Med. plants are drought tolerant, allysium, lavender et cet. Shrub;'Breath of Heaven' has a great scent, and can be grown as a fragrant hedge. Last year I decided that any plant in my garden was going to receive a minimal amount of water during our drought and those that lived could remain. This did, to my great delight. Snow in summer' sorry I forgot the Latin name which begins with C... a low growing plant that spreads over an area of c. a yard. silvery green foliage and small white flowers. Rose Campion, another med. native that has silvery gray leaves. a flower that has been growing in cottage gardens for hundreds of years. I have it growing beside 'Westside Road Cream Tea' I do like herbs planted amongst my roses: smaller forms of rosemary, oregano, there's some fancy forms 'Kent Beauty ' is one of those, mother of thyme makes a deep green carpet and the flowers keep the bees happy. Lemon verbena near a path gives off a lovely and refreshing scent as one walks by and touches it. Poets Jasmine, again on a north facing wall so the shade lessens its' need for water. I'd plant it by a pink remontant rose as the jasmine does not re-bloom. Nasturtium. The hummingbirds love 'Empress of India', a red nasturtium. Forget-me-nots, I plant them on the sides of rosebushes where they only get half a days sun, and need less water that way. Average water: Scabiosa, there's a mauve form and a purple form that are very pretty. Violets and Parma violets give winter interest, Parma violets are water wise plants when grown in partial shade. Pelagoniums, I grew up calling them Geraniums, I have 'Roxanne' and 'Electric Blue'. Lilys. I prefer the scented Oriental lilys to the scentless Asian hybrids. I had to move all my 'Casablanca' lilies to a pot on a pedestal because snails ate an entire bed of my lilies. Water Wise, (Not quite drought tolerant, need to be watered twice a month in summer here) Lavender. I water French Lavender 2-3 times during a summer and Spanish lavender once a month. I find the shorter forms of lavender need watering more often so I don't grow them anymore. I plant any of my largest rosebushes which don't need support furthest out from the faucet, because they get watered only once a month in summer, and rarely in the other seasons because we do get some rain (usually) the rest of the year. Large self-supporting rosebushes: spray 'Cecille Brunner' I've seen this grown so it has one large basal cane and been pruned: -Into a large balloon shaped shrub. -into a hedge. Each plant makes a wonderfully fragrant hedge with good re-bloom, c. 8 feet long, by 3-4 feet tall, depending on how tall the person wanted it. My neighbor grows hers on the side of a shed. Mme. Alfred Carriere, this is drought tolerant when mature, in our climate. I only watered it twice this summer. I keep it to c. 6 feet tall by c. 5 feet wide, by shearing it 2-3 times back, each summer. Monsieur Tillier, can reach 10 feet tall by nearly as wide. In general the larger the canopy of a large rosebush, the deeper the roots grow, and are able to access levels of water that shorter rosebushes cannot. Susan Louise' a marvelous Hybrid Gigantea that blooms from February through December locally. Produces large roses in profusion that are a fresh hue of pink. Can be grown as a self supporting shrub, c. 18' tall by 9' across, which has the sillouette of an apple tree if limbed, I've also seen it grown as a 25 foot long climber on a 4 foot tall fence. A nice but light fragrance. - since your sister loves Lady Hillingdon, perhaps she'd like 'Anna Olivier' a shapely honey hued Tea rose with an intense fragrance, it's more richly hued sport is called 'Lady Roberts' and I envy her having such a sublime rose given her name. -Mrs. B.R.Cant' big pink roses on a big plant. I water this only half as often as I do my smaller rosebushes, such as my Hybrid Teas, and it doesn't seem to mind. Clematis; I plant them on the North side of the house so they get shade, and therefore need less watering. c. jackmanni is easy to grow. Best wishes Luxrosa...See Moreconfused--iris growth pattern
Comments (3)None of what you describe is unusual. After bloom, the rhizome from which the bloom stalk arose is the mother rhizome, which has by the time of bloom, generally produced new fans behind (away from the rhizome) and to the side of the bloom stalk. There will often be small growth buds along the length of the mother rhizome which, in very healthy soil, and with a very vigorous variety of iris, and given good weather/climate conditions, will start to grow into larger rhizomes and put up fans of their own, so you get this scattering of fans all around a strong growing clump - a row each side of the mother rhizome, and a group to either side of the bloom stalk. Each of these will eventually put out their own increase and make a large clump. The fan you describe coming up 5" away is strange. Could it be a piece of another rhizome, or something that was left in the soil? Sometimes I get rhizomes that are so huge that they have little pea sized rhizomes along the sides, and these can become detatched as the plant is being planted, and fall to the ground and grow by themselves. Some of the ones I have had from Barry Blyth have had babies the sized of a cherry tomato, and it may be hard to know what plant they came from if they have detatched themselves. Still it's a bonus! Here in Australia, the growing season is such that I often have 2 lots of increase in a season - the mother rhizome produces new increase in Autumn, then another lot in Spring arise from those that grew in Autumn. Cheers, Jan...See Morecamp Evelyn or camp Abraham Darby?
Comments (33)My Abe has been a very good plant, but has declined some since this picture was taken. Mine is by the hot street and blooms usually don't fry but guess we don't get as hot as Las Vegas. I do spray but not so much after June. My Evelyn plant has never been vigorous. I have a friend with two good plants of Evelyn. I think I'll sp my Evelyn this year and try again in a different location. To me Abe is more beautiful and fragrant, and repeats well. Abe with Carefree Beauty to the right :...See MoreFastest growing palm for my climate
Comments (4)Jubaeas are much slower growing. Hardy..they can get by on little summer water. It might take 20 years for them to be over a man's head in height. Still,they take much cold and to me at all sizes look regal. Small ones are like green cycads. Large ones- we have two here that were planted in 1874- are just awesome sights to behold. btw,The Medjool should also be faster growing and even more drought tolerant. As always with even desert palms- the more water the faster they grow....See Morehoovb zone 9 sunset 23
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