Adaptability and possibility are two different concepts really. If we are to talk possibility, I've no doubt someone in Florida can experiment and report success growing Midnight/II, just as Quirky does in Georgia. I can grow Zoysia in Michigan, and it will return every year. But is that practical? Adaptability is much less a relative word if you're going to have to adjust maintenance practices, redefine turf quality, and redetermine morphological expressions. Midnight and no other can perform and express its traits and characteristics according to what is customarily expected if it's treated like a warm season type turfgrass and growing in soil structure, climate, and other conditions that are not conducive. It becomes something else though it yet lives and grows. And it becomes something else for the turf manager to commit to spending more in resources than the more adapted grass type requires. I submit Bill was right and has a fantastic tall fescue lawn and has tried growing bluegrass. He wasn't willing to irrigate the bluegrass more than his tall fescue demands of him, which is more adapted to his area.

Sooooo, who said to plant Midnight II? The numbers are deceiving. You have to take the LSD values into consideration also. Both your source and NTEP ratings prove that......... *You get no better shade tolerance from one than the other. The Midnights are not shade tolerant. *For rust, the difference is less that 1 point, meaning barely significant *There is no difference in red thread significance *Spring density are the same *Genetic color are the same * Spring greenup are the same Where the Midnight Types are concerned, the term "spring greenup" can be confusing. It does not mean they will be brown until they begin to green up in spring, nor that they will be brown until late spring. They never turn brown during winter dormancy, having good winter color for the most part although that doesn't mean they stay the same color as in fall. The term means it will take time for them to express their true genetic color in spring which, as we know, is very dark. But they will green up along with other lawns, just take longer to darken. I overseeded with Award (Midnight Type) and Boutique. My lawn was great in spring like everyone else's, then I could visibly see it darkening each day. It was exciting to watch. When I woke each morning, the first thing I did was run to my window to look at the grass. I could tell it was darker than the day before. This went on for two weeks or so.

Dee, so, you were a Ranger fan, rivals of the Bruins, I remember some of the intense games we had. Your daughters play hockey, that must be really nice that you all share that interest. I wonder if they have any interesting in gardening too? :-) That sounds like a very interesting garden. None of the negative effects of the slope that you would think and evidently all positives. I would imagine it is a different look out the front of the house at the garden too if it rises in front of you, while the back of the house continues to slope down and perhaps has a nice elevated view. So all the same shade of green? But with the golds of Hakone and Spirea and are some of the Hostas variegated and gold? I do understand your dislike of all the same shade of green. I am often looking for a dark, dark green, to break up some of the mid green tones. And I like the golds and the variegated to break things up. The browns and burgundy leaves, I always think are going to add to the mix for interest, but IâÂÂm not always happy with it, so I donâÂÂt have a lot of it. Hi, Thyme2 :-) YouâÂÂre lucky that you have some moist spots on your property. Mine really doesnâÂÂt have a one. Tree root zones and completely level with no low spots. So, there are a lot of plants that prefer moisture that I just skip over in a catalog. GreenGo, IâÂÂve had the same experience with Midnight Wine this year. I wasnâÂÂt sure they were coming back either. I had not heard of âÂÂShining Sensationâ before seeing your photo on another thread. ItâÂÂs a nice color and size. Do you shape them round and prune them a lot? Was there a reason you shovel pruned âÂÂWine and RosesâÂÂ?

I have grown this heuchera successfully in a container with some other stuff, and it has done great. It overerwintered in the pot last year, and I plan on combining it with pansies for this winter too.