Patchy Fescue Lawn?
oberci
10 years ago
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In a KBG/Rye/Fescue blend lawn- will fescue outcompete?
Comments (7)If you water once a week (an inch each time), the KBG will definitely outcompete the fescue as it spreads via rhizomes. If you water less often, the KBG will go dormant and you'll have a mostly brown lawn with clumps of green grass where the fescue is. Then, in the fall and spring, when there's enough water for the KBG, it'll spring back and fill in and outcompete the fescue. If you want a grass that can handle very little water and spread through the lawn when the KBG is suffering, something like streambank or western wheatgrass (both natives) or Roadcrest or Ephraim crested wheatgrass (imported from Siberia) may do it. Note that most varieties of crested wheatgrass are bunch grasses. There may be others that are rhizomatous, but I know the two I listed are. Buffalo grass will spread via stolons, but I think it would be a mistake to try to plant it into an existing KBG/Fescue lawn. Buffalo grass does best during the heat of the summer and will probably be dormant from late September through mid May (I'm assuming you're in the Salt Lake valley; if you're around St George, it'll have a much longer growing season)....See MoreNeed Help with Patchy Lawn - 3 weeks from Seeding a new Lawn
Comments (8)Don't do any of those things. Let the grass that has germinated continue to grow. Cut back on the watering frequency but start increasing the volume per session. You want to slowly start transitioning to watering only once a week (and watering for a long enough time to put down 1 inch of water as measured by a rain gage or tuna can). Cut it when it's 3 inches tall to a height of 2 inches; make sure it (and the soil) is dry on that day! After the first cut, raise your mower blade height to the highest setting (ideally 3.5 to 4 inches). That is the height you want the fescue to be maintained at. Never cut off more than 1/3 off at once (so cut when it's about 5 inches tall). Because your lawn is new ... And because you made the big mistake of planting in the spring, you WILL get weed pressure. Resist the urge to apply any herbicide. Your grass will weaken as a result. Resist the urge, resist the urge, resist the urge. Fall is the ideal time to plant fescue, but what's done is done and you will be throwing money away by spraying herbicide. Resist the urge. On Memorial Day, think about putting down an application of lawn food. I wouldn't recommend any Turf Builder or other synthetic fertilizer until the fall, but organics are great. I like Milorganite personally because it's safe for kids/animals and won't burn the lawn. Give it another dose of organic lawn food on July 4th. Once the lawn your put down has established, you might be surprised how well the bare spots will fill in. (Even with fescue.) deep and infrequent watering + mowing high and often is the recipe for success. For any bare spots that you are still unhappy with come September, save yourself some trouble and just buy a jug of Scotts EZ Seed. It should match the Scotts tall fescue that you put down already. It's meant for patching and it's kind of goof proof....See MoreFixing patchy lawn
Comments (1)Since you're asking about seeding in the spring, I presume you seeded in the spring last year. Spring is almost the worst time of year to start grass seed. Summer is the only worse time. Late fall is the best time and it goes downhill from there. I would strongly suggest sodding this time of year. The sod goes down and you have an instant lawn. Depending on how big your bad parts are, you can keep the existing good grass and drop pieces of sod in the bad spots. Sod can be chopped to fit odd shapes and curves. For a small area, it should work for you. Religious about watering: Does that mean every Sunday or only on Christmas and Easter? Usually that means you watered too frequently. I'll post my paragraph on watering at the bottom of this. The two most popular northern lawn grasses are fescue types and Kentucky bluegrass. Fescue is a bunch grass that will not spread. The only way to fill thin spots is with more seed. It is not unusual to have to reseed thin spots every fall. Fescue grows in full sun and in partial shade. Kentucky bluegrass is a sod forming grass that will spread to fill in thin spots. It grows in the full sun and thins out in the shade. Many people have a lawn with trees, fences, or whatever that casts shade in the yard. A mix of KBG and fescue is popular to keep the grass looking pretty good everywhere. If you still have crabgrass, then it is not crabgrass. Crabgrass is a summer annual plant that always sprouts from seed in the spring and dies in the fall. You might have orchard grass, dallis grass, or barnyard grass. They are often mistaken for crabgrass. Those must either be pulled out or sprayed out with Grass-b-Gon or Round Up. Spot spray the weeds carefully because grass killer will kill your good grass, too. Whatever it is, get rid of it before you sod or seed. Let us know which way you decide to go (seed or sod) and we can give you some tips to make it go right for you. There are some blunders you can make, so let's talk first. Watering: Deep and infrequent is the mantra for watering. This is for all turf grass all over the place. Deep means 1 inch all at one time. Put some cat food or tuna cans around the yard, and time how long it takes your sprinkler(s) to fill all the cans. Memorize that time. That will be the time you water from now on. My hose, sprinkler and water pressure takes 8 full hours to fill the cans. Your time will likely be less. I like gentle watering. As for watering frequency, that depends on the daytime air temperature. With temps in the 90s, deep water once per week. With temps in the 80s, deep water once every 2 weeks. With temps in the 70s, deep water once every 3 weeks. With temps below 70, deep water once a month. Note that you have to keep up with quickly changing temps in the spring and fall. This deep and infrequent schedule works in Phoenix and in Vermont, so it should work for you. The reason for deep and infrequent is to grow deeper, more drought resistant roots and to allow the soil to dry completely at the surface for several days before watering again. If it rains, reset your calendar to account for the rainfall....See MoreSeeded Bluegrass Lawn Coming In Spotty.
Comments (3)Updated pictures below. More seeds germinated, but it is still really patchy and getting more yellow. Some yellow may be from dogs, but it is doubtful that it all is. The weather has been mild with almost no rain – most daytime temps in the mid 60's, and nighttime in the low 50's. I am watering every day, still, but thinking I should change it to every few days, and a bit deeper soak. I have not used any kind of weed killer or chemical other than the Turf Builder Starter. It's been about 4 weeks since the re-seeding and have no idea where to go from here....See Moregsweater
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