You asked: I hate it. The bottom one looks like someone took a traditional, wicker sofa and wrapped it in leather. Those very formal, old fashioned arms, and bun feet, don't go with the eclectic, casual style of the upholstery. The shape of the red sofas is much more appropriate, but it would be better in all leather. Leather is great with kids so long as they don't have sharp things in their pockets and can be trusted not to poke pencils into it. It cleans up with water and saddle soap. But it does stick to bare skin, and can get hot. It's nature's vinyl. Which is why they combine it with fabric. Bad move. Either be fabric or be leather. The weight and texture are too different and they rarely come out looking great, especially after some living happens. The red bench is cool! Less imposing than a sofa table (console), but with a lot of the same function. And it's folky and funky. My Aunt had the two sofas flanking the fireplace in her living room. It's a great conversation grouping, but not so much for TV watching. For that, especially for the kids who probably look at the screen more, you want a straight on view. You can do a big square, though. An L of couch and settee or second couch or loveseat, and a couple of small easy chairs that are easy to get around on the opposite side. You have your red chairs. I'm not sure if they're too big to allow people to walk by easily if you close up the square, but even so, you can always pull them over for company, and keep them by the piano for family time with running kids. Re Larry, have your other family members sit tested him? I totally agree about the shape. It's very tired. But that LOVE thing is important. Your family room couch should feel Ahhh to sit on. I'm sure it'll still be there though. Maybe you can find a similarly comfy couch in a more classic shape that will give you more breadth of possibilities. Comfort comes first, but it can be done with a little more style than poor Larry. ;-)

I don't think the table will work. It sits in a traffic lane. In the overhead rendering, it seems to make going around the island or going out the sliding doors a chore. Mopping may require divine intervention. The other rendering is (ahem) a bit distorted. Could you live with a table height island? Add a foot or so to the island width, but have the entire island on legs instead of on cabinets. It could be moved. Alternately, the person who wants the chairs, could they live with counter height chairs and you use a counterheight table as an island? Last alternate - use one of those flip open tables normally flipped closed and parked against the back of the island. If you need more seating or table space, flip it open and move it out from the island. Otherwise, it would be a nice perching spot.

I agree that you need at least 12" of overhang (15" would be even better). What is the distance b/w the drawer bank & the table? Perhaps it's too narrow, as Morton5 mentioned. It does look kind of tight... If you decide to go ahead w/the 12", I guess I'd do one of three things.... have the seating overhang be 12" w/a 3" protrusion past the drawer bank (may be only option b/c of aisle). Rebuild the drawer base cabinet to be 15" wide. If you approved the 12" you'll probably have to pay...but if you pay the cabinetmaker directly you may not have to pay the KD...s/he should have at least told you that 15" is recommended for counter-height seating. Then, you could have made an informed decision on what you actually wanted. Pull the drawer bank out and have the 3" b/w the other cabinet in the island & drawer base. Then, put in a 3" filler pullout in that 3" space. Rev-A-Shelf as 3 different styles of base filler pullouts. (See link below.) Note: Filler Pullouts must be installed at the time of cabinet installation...not after the fact. HTH! Here is a link that might be useful: Filler Pull-Outs - Base

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