(Hypothetically) You Have No Burner, And You Must Cook.
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Have you cooked a Turkey in your Miele Wall Oven?
Comments (6)As trailrunner says, there are recipes on the website including one for turkey. Re the probe -- it's excellent for large pieces like roasts and needs to be inserted all the way in. I used autoroast for the turkey last year. The way I cooked turkey forever is to jump start it at 425 for 20 minutes, then lower the temperature to 325 for the remainder of the cooking. I tent the top with foil after the first 20 minutes. That's what autoroast does more or less. I usually do a 12 pound turkey, which always was done in about 3-1/2 hours. But the 325 is very gentle on autoroast, I baste and that loses oven heat and it takes 15 minutes or so to come back up to temperature. So with the basting and time lag to return to the right temperature, the turkey was taking too long. So I adjusted the temp up to 335 for the duration, which is my suggestion unless you don't plan to baste. My oven is very accurate and I've done the same recipe for 20 years. If this is the first time you're doing a big turkey, I'll make some suggestions to help it along. I remove mine from the fridge before I go to bed and put it in the laundry room sink -- not stuffed. My laundry room is cold -- 62 to 68 degrees. You don't want to do that in an 80 degree kitchen but if you have a colder room (my sister in law used her screen porch) it will help. I don't put raw egg in the stuffing and I stuff right before roasting. So I leave the stuffing out overnight also -- again in a cool room (62-68 degrees). (If you need a mushroom/sourdough stuffing recipe I'm glad to share, send me an email). I do chicken right on the rack but use a roasting pan for a big turkey. Last year, I got the probe into the turkey leg first then connected it in the oven -- either way it's tricky since something is hot. I managed to get it into the thickest part of the leg, not touching the bone. I'd be interested in what others have to say but with an 18-20 pound turkey I think you're looking at 5-1/2 to 6 hours of cooking time with the autoroast at 425-335 provided the turkey and stuffing are not refrigerator-cold and ajusting for the quickest possible basting 4 times during the cooking (unless you have someone strong to take the turkey out of the oven to baste). You could call Miele consumer help people to verify that....See MoreHow long have you been cooking for?
Comments (43)I grew up eating alternatively grandma’s Chinese home cooking or my single dad‘s random single dad cooking - you know, dinners of steak and orange juice. Sometimes I lived in France and ate whatever single dad post docs could afford to feed their kids in Paris and Strasbourg. I don’t recall having any very special food in early 1970s France - I think we were eating street food basically. When I went to school, I lived on Top Ramen through college and grad school. We all did, with occasional splurges on Hamburger Helper, burritos, and pizza to wash down the beer. One of my friends made a ”Shrine to Top Ramen” that we bowed to daily. I don’t think my first fiance, A*****, cooked, other than pasta. I didn’t. We ate out a lot. SWMBO didn’t really cook when we started co-habitating, but she wanted to replicate the home cooked meals that she’d grown up with. We referred to the Betty Crocker cookbook a lot and made a lot of stuff that we had no idea what to do with. SWMBO denies it, but I distinctly remember one Thanksgiving hearing her on the phone to her older sister asking ”which end of the turkey do I stuff?” When we roasted a goose at Christmas, there was no-one to tell us what to do with the river of molten fat overflowing the sheet pan. I learned to cook from SWMBO’s college friend, S*****, who was putting himself through culinary school working with his partner in a catering business. He’s the top food scientist in a seafood company today. S*****’s mother became my and SWMBO’s adoptive parents in Los Angeles. She is the best cook and hostess I have ever known, and while she didn’t necessarily teach me many specific techniques, she taught us to express love and friendship with food. In recent years, I’ve learned from DD who has become a much better cook than I. Her years running the commercial kitchen at camp, leading crews of hungover teenage line cooks in feeding 150 very-picky Berkeley families nightly while improvising “dietary” meals for the few who announce that they are vegetarian soy-intolerant low-spice non-dairy but want something as tasty as the ribs and salmon everyone ELSE is getting - ”oh, and I can’t have garlic, or salt either” - well, it’s made her inflappable and inventive. (She was actually sad to leave for Marseille, because with the shortage of people applying to restaurant jobs, she really wanted to stay in Portland and try to get a line cook job in a fancy restaurant. One thing she’s thinking now about now is culinary school in Europe. She’s also trying to figure it if she can find work in a Marseille restaurant, since her teaching job isn’t full time.) So, I’ve been cooking for about 35 years, starting around age 23. I can cook some things very well, am hopeless at others, and am in a deep cooking slump at the moment - well, for the last 18 months really, because when gatherings are virtual, cooking just isn’t very interesting for me. I’m really, really ready for the pandemic to be over or become endemic. Except that a lot of my friends are older or medically fragile, and I’ve recently lost one to Covid who was neither and only in her 50s, I’m kind of getting indifferent to which it might be. Oh, last thing that might be interesting - after I’ve cooked a lot, like 8 hours in the kitchen for a dinner party, I have no interest in eating. I figured out that I want to be involved with the food, but don’t necessarily need to eat it....See MoreI have a hypothetical question for you all. RE: Propane vs Oil
Comments (12)Some home insurers are beginning to decline coverage for oil systems, or setting restrictions (mostly related to the tank). If you'd be getting a new system, that's less likely to be an issue, but expect your insurer to ask a lot of questions if you're going oil. From what I've heard, buried tanks are an absolute no-no these days, and in-basement tanks have to have catch basins and fibreglass cladding. All because even a small leak can be a significant expense. Seriously look at geothermal or air-to-air heat pumps as mentioned above. Higher up-front cost, but you're not hostage to fossil fuel prices. For our new build, we went geothermal for heat/AC (and pre-heated water), but had propane put in anyway for the cooktop, a whole-house generator, fireplace and BBQ hookup....See MoreA hypothetical question - what one thing would be important to you?
Comments (26)The description was intentionally limited. No changes or exceptions to be made for you to consider. If you have a particular question about something, assume the answer is consistent with the notion that facility is adequate and physically comfortable but nothing more. . Academic studies rarely pay subjects much money and sometimes not at all. It's a hypothetical, friends. No more to know than what's described. Assume you're participating to answer the question. Or, don't....See More- 10 months ago
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