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Comments (9)I haven't cleaned the insides often (had the range swapped out because of the burner issues, so haven't had one long enough to get the inside too dirty). Yes, it is a PITA to do (the downside of no self-clean, but the alternative would be having the range pump out tremendous amounts of heat for many hours). I always had to clean my oven door manually on my old self-clean range anyway, and had to wipe out the ashes left behind after self-clean, so it''s not as though I had a free ride before! For the top, once you get the hang of it, cleaning goes pretty quickly (I don't clean the actual burner rings themselves BTW, don't see a need unless there's been a messy spillover--they're burners after all--not suppposed to look pristine and unused!). For spot cleaning or jsut wiping down the burner pans, I have found that Perfect Kitchen spray (from BB&B) was a good recommendation from the people at the SZ/Wolf showroom. Depending on the am't of mess, I'll spray the burner pans or spray a paper towel and wipe. For baked on crud or more extensive cleaning, spray with Dawn Power Dissolver spray gel, let sit (how long depends on how burnt on the mess or how much time you want to wait), and then "scrub" in the sink with a blue scrub sponge (ours usually has some Palmolive dish soap on it already), rinse, and dry. I use a dish towel to dry the pans. If I notice any smudges or finger prints after popping the pans back onto the range, I might give a quick buff with a dry microfiber cloth. The grates get a quick scrub in the sink with a soapy blue scrub sponge if I'm going to be cleaning the drip pans as well, not if I'm just spraying and wiping them. I do those first, then lay them upside down on a sheet of paper towel on the counter. They're pretty much dry by the time I've replaced the burner pans. I'll just blot up any remaining water/wet spots with a towel/microfiber/or paper towel and we're good to go!...See MoreJenn-Air gas range problems - sorry, very long
Comments (1)Jokingly, my friends call me the Complaint Queen; but I get results about 85-90% of the time. At this point, you need to go to the top. You want to get to the person who can order people to fix it; with large public corporations its easy to find that person, but you should also look for names under the person. You want to call the CEO's office, ask specifically for his/her adminstrative assistant and sounding as professional as possible, and without telling them you want to complain, ask for their fax number. Fax a letter as early in the day, or after the close of business. Follow-up with snail mail. Email does work, but its hard to get the right email address for the top people. However, if you do find a name who you think should be copied, finding a company's email protocol is out there. Additionally, you need to go on the Internet and find out who is in charge of Jenn-Air marketing and sales, and send a copy to that person, and anyone else you think of that can make something happen. Keep your letter short as possible, but be certain to make it clear that their company has problems that will hurt the company' image and ultimately their bottom line. MAKE IT A BUSINESS ISSUE AS WELL AS YOUR ISSUE. You want to make solving your problem a win/win situation. I checked the internet and the key names are out there, as well as pr contacts which sometimes can be very helpful if you contact them carefully. Also, check out your state's attorney general's office. Some states have staff who help on consumer issues. If you are in a area where a tv station who does consumer stories, call them. It's a good story. Believe me, when it comes to complaining, the squeaky wheel does get the oil!...See MoreNew Home Kitchen Outfitting...DCS, Samsung vs. Liebherr, oy...
Comments (21)Hi all - thanks again for the great feedback. For ventilation, we are going with a Best 54" hood and 1100 or 1500 (I forget which) remote in-line blower with silencer... I saw that mentioned somewhere, read up, and was convinced. I also saw a gunked up VAH, and was totally turned off forever. As an update, we've decided on Miele dishwashers, I think the Futura Dimension (I think the plus only adds more quiet...which I won't notice). Dissenters welcome. For the fridge, I don't think we can swing a SZ now, and the Liebherr is, indeed, way too tall for comfort. I think we are going to go with a Samsung with the dual evap. Can't find a good, large FD model with inside water, but we're working on it. Seems you need to downgrade cubic ft. Our final major issue is this: Wolf vs. DCS (I really can't seem to find the benefits of Wolf other than "reliability and history", variable simmer, and no yellowing problem with the top). We are really torn. Everyone who doesn't sell DCS says they're crap. Everyone who does says they're awesome, but that Wolf is better...because they also sell Wolf? Also, dual fuel vs. all gas. We are definitely getting an additional wall oven, and I can't decide if it is nicer to have the option of two types, or to stick to one type and brand?) for consistency with large, multi-oven batches. What I really can't figure out is how much more inconsistent baking will be in an AG Wolf or DCS oven (ie. 3 sheets at once, without tons of turning). Obviously, AG saves quite a chunk of change, and then we could really get any wall oven...considering the KA convection with micro over it, honestly, to not only save money, but to have a reliable, and just fine oven that will still be leagues better than anything we've ever had in an apartment. Then, we can always replace with something fancier down the line. We just really don't want to skimp on the range at this point. I am open to KA slams, if anyone feels we absolutely must stick with a Wolf or DCS oven for some reason or another (the price difference isn't entirely prohibitive, and we can work it out if anyone thinks that quality and/or features are worth it). So to sum up, we really can't decide on gas vs. electric ovens, and DCS vs. Wolf. I think my wife may throw out my computer if I don't stop reading on it soon!...See MoreRange Shopping
Comments (1)Well, they always recommend going in with pots you're likely to use, esp. in the oven. It helps to size things up. If you can actually check it out, turn it on, look at the broiler etc. that would be nice. Cooking with it would be better.. I know a little about the all gas models, but not the others. People often say to stay away from too many electronics, because the heat can fry them, but I think it depends on the brand. There are probably about a half dozen high end brands. I am happy with the Bluestar (all gas)....See More- last month
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