How Important is Stained Glass Symmetry
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Counter space in one hand, symmetry in the other... help.
Comments (74)No need to reply to this. Just FWIW: What if you dropped the wall behind the stove quite a bit. Kinda like this. How much you could drop the wall would depend on what you had to put behind the stove. On the top of the wall behind the stove, to at least partially conceal the stove's protrusion, you could put something like one of these? (In my mind's eye, I see a collection of copper boxes, not a single one.) I was looking for something that might hold kitchen tools or somehow be useful as well as pick up the sink's copper and be interesting. I found a couple. This one isn't long enough, but you'll get the idea. Here's a detail of the planter: And here is the link: Here is a link that might be useful: hand-tooled copper planter with birds This post was edited by Bellsmom on Sat, Feb 23, 13 at 17:35...See MoreLanding space more important near fridge or micro? WWYD?
Comments (28)I am going to try to address the last few comments and questions comprehensively. Prep sink: I have thought about swapping the sink and trash like a few people have recommended, but feel the corner is probably the best placement for me, with the faucet in the back corner. Having it in the corner allows for 30" of work surface to the left of the sink on the short end of the island and 36" between the sink and setting area on the long side of the island. If I switch the sink and trash, then I just have 18" on each side. Trash: I think it makes sense to keep the trash and recycling on the north side of the island, near the prep sink, since a lot of recyclable packaging will be coming from the pantry, fridge and freezer. I picture rinsing veggies at the sink and then moving them onto a cutting board just to the right of the sink to chop. I am trying to decide if the trash would be more convenient right next to the sink (where I am likely to stand) or if it should move down to the right a little more. So, should it be sink, trash, storage, seating or sink, storage trash, seating? I will need a second small trash can near the clean up sink and DW to scrape plates off. I am still trying to figure out how to line up the lowers on that wall. Pantry: Our last house had a 17" wide pantry cabinet with ROTS in the kitchen, then a nearby laundry room with 8' long of 18" deep shelving, 5 shelves high with the highest at about 6'. I used maybe 4' of the 18" deep shelves for cans and bags and boxes of food. The rest of the shelving held overflow pots and pans, picnic basket, Costco paper towel and TP purchases and random house hold items. I guess that is why I figured that having a 4' wide pantry with 18" deep shelves (plus extra storage behind the doors) plus the 24" pantry with ROTS would suit our needs well. I must admit the primary reason for replacing the 24" wine tower with a 24" tall pantry cabinet was to maintain symmetry with the 24" oven cabinet at the other end of the wall. 30" on each side of the range was what we had at the last house and it worked well. 24" was too small, but I think 30" will be plenty. I bought a steam oven on clearance, so I will have two 24" ovens to place. I am debating between stacking them together in one cabinet and having the other deep cabinet be pure pantry, or putting one oven at about counter height in each tower, with storage above and below. We have lots of wall cabinets in our garage where we store the huge packages of paper towels, TP, diapers, wipes, etc from Costco, with just small amounts going into the house. We considered a walk-in pantry like the architect drew, but you lose a lot of storage space in the middle of the walk-in. We plan to do the reach-in pantry from the kitchen side, with an 18-20" deep hall closet immediately behind (pretty easily accessible from kitchen). The 9'8" hall closet will have a few feet of shelves for linens, shelves for cleaning products and paper products, shelves for games, and standing room for the vacuum, steam mop, ironing board, etc. There will be a 26" deep x 8' wide coat closet further down the hall. Hopefully this will give us enough storage space in the house. Maybe I can design the kitchen reach-in pantry more like a double door closet (with the doors going down to the floor), rather than like a cabinet. Thank you all for your help in working through these decisions....See MoreShould I make this symmetrical?
Comments (11)Dishwasher...Functionally, I would move it since right now you can't have it open when someone is working at the range or prepping b/w the sink & range. The new location will also give you more room for maneuvering when unloading the DW (right now, you only have 12" b/w the DW & corner). Yes, the DW will then be b/w the refrigerator & sink, but you spend far less time w/an open refrigerator than you do in front of a range. I think the upper cabinets are fine...however, they will change if you switch the DW to the other side of the sink. You will then have 24" on the left & 30" on the right. You could have either a 24" door to the left of the sink & two 15" doors to the right OR two 12" doors to the left & two 15" doors to the right. I'd have to see a rendering to see how those options would look...I'd probably lean toward the latter (two 12" doors on the 24" cabinet). Some other possibilities to remedy the door situation to the right of the sink: Go w/a blind unit instead of an upper cabinet...that would gain you 12" and you would then have 24" on the left & 42" on the right...w/a 24" door & two 21" doors...close to the same size. Go w/a blind corner unit have a 24" cabinet + 18" cabinet Go w/a blind corner unit have a 42" cabinet with unequal doors...24" door + 18" door (if that's possible...custom, though) Stay w/corner cabinet and have a 24" cabinet + 6" filler pullout cabinet Stay w/corner cabinet and have a 30" cabinet w/unequal doors...24" + 6" (again, if possible & would need to be custom) See if a modified corner cabinet could be made...one w/an 18" side (sink side) and the standard 24" side (range side). (Again, custom!) If you can't do any of the above then I think the next step is to ask yourself What is more important to you...aesthetics or functionality?Functionally, the DW would work better if it's moved; but for the upper cabinets aesthetics, it would probably work better if it stays as-is. Not sure if this helps, but I hope it does!...See MoreHow important is a window in the laundry room?
Comments (16)I've spent the last 11 years without a window in the laundry room. The room is small and doubles as a family powder room with toilet and small pedestal sink. Oh, and the cat box. (I direct guests to the actual bathroom down the hall.) There's no space whatsoever to fold in there so I dump laundry on the large upholstered chair in the family room and fold on the ottoman. Besides, the kids are always playing in the family room. That way, I can be right there interacting with them and getting some work done at the same time. That being said, if there was a reasonable way for you to get a window I think you should. Get as much natural light as possible. (I love in Washington state where it's gray half of the year so natural light is highly valuable.) But, as others have said, only if the trade-off isn't too great. Sounds like it may be just an issue of installing it or not?? You have an outside wall for it, right? If yes, do it!...See MoreKendrah
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