2023 rose & health & garden & what we treasure
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Forgotten Cemetery Treasures.....Roses we've saved
Comments (38)Reality Check Time There are areas of the country where roses did not tend to be planted in cemetaries. Iris, yes, peonies, yes, daffodils, yes, arborvitae in vast quantities, but not roses. In one week in Arizona, not even particularly looking for either cemetaries or roses, we saw more cemetary roses than I've ever seen in this part of the country. The closest anybody seems to be to an explanation is that roses in cemetaries are connected to a Catholic cultural heritage, which doesn't really arrive in the northeast until the late 19th, early 20th century. My mother's family cemetary plot in western Pennsylvania looks like something from an Edward Gorey drawing (as did my grandparent's house) Which brings up something else to keep in mind. The major enemy of neglected roses in the eastern part of the country isn't drought but trees. Many older cemetaries here are heavily shaded. In the really old cemetaries - the 17th century ones - it's not uncommon to have 200 year old trees growing in the middle of the headstones. So you have the conumdrum that roses can only exist around people, but people can decide to get rid of them....See More12/15/15: Wise quotes, roses or what gave you health & happiness?
Comments (49)Sam: Agree with you that biochar is low-level oxygen and slow-burning. Here's an excerpt from below link: "Without sophisticated kilns and ovens to produce modern biochar, this ancient material was likely made by setting alight a pile of organic material before covering it with dirt to eliminate oxygen but hold in the heat from the fire which, in turn, baked the organic matter. http://www.azocleantech.com/article.aspx?ArticleId=183 The above link is worth clicking, it shows vigorous plants grown with biochar, versus without. The reason why biochar is better than wood-ash? It's like cooking food with a slow-cooker (crock-pot), versus burning food on a hot fire. Slow-cooking retains more nutrients, versus LESS nutrients with fast burning & lots of oxygen. When my neighbor burned wood in a open-fire-pit, the heat was so intense that it converted our heavy-black-clay into reddish clay. Nutrients in foods are destroyed at high temp, same with wood-ash: less nutrients than biochar....See MoreAbout roses, garden, health, best products & recipes
Comments (163)@rosecanadian I'm so sorry to hear about your health. It's great that you are staying optimistic and thinking positive thoughts while looking for helpful tips on how to feel better. I've always believed that a positive mindset plays a big role in our health and when we get sick. I hope you're feeling better! (I also hope you get whatever roses your ordering from Palatine Roses). I was reading posts on therose forum about their website drama this morning and it reminded me of the same thing happening last year. I went over to peak at their site since I've never ordered from them and it wouldn't load for me which only amped my curiosity. Are the roses made of gold?? I love seeing all of your pots! I bet they look even more beautiful come spring time. I think the extra holes will make them happy. I always found that the more I added perlite or recycled seltzer cans to my pots back east...the better the plants did both indoor and outdoor. Especially if they're not in unglazed terracotta pots that breath. I found that terracotta only helps my succulents and desert plants indoors, otherwise it dries too fast with the air passing through. So extra holes drilled is best. I drilled 10 big holes in the bottom of my new pots here and they seem to do well draining. If you happen to find a hydroponics store near you, you could also look into Hydroton instead of perlite. If you get it at a hydroponics store in a giant bag it's cheaper (and lightweight) compared to online prices. Plus there's basically no dust/mess with Hydroton compared to perlite(which I hate breathing in...very toxic!). My plants seemed to love Hydroton mixed into their soils back east. One time I did an experiment back in NY where I took all of my difficult to grow desert plants and succulents/cacti, and repotted them in big clear plastic containers with no drainage holes. Only hydroton and/or perlite. But no drainage holes. I put them all on giant heat pads under T5 grow lights and filled each container of hydroton/perlite with water and succulent/cacti liquid food, and then used a soil thermometer to make sure the inside water in the containers stayed between 80-85 degrees on the heat pads. The plants grew so well and all of their new growth was so healthy and green. They had the healthiest giant white roots too and would flower a lot. I had read that these high-heat desert plants needed very warm roots anywhere between 80-90F to grow well and had killed so many trying to grow indoors because their roots would get too cold in soil/perlite mix. Anyways...was an awesome experiment to realize the importance of warmth in the root zone, but also how helpful it can be growing indoors with clean soil mix like pure perlite or hydroton. No fungus or bacteria to cause root or stem rot in the plants. Like hydroponics, they got their nutrients from a liquid I'd add to the water in the containers. They were the happiest plants I ever grew :) @seasiderooftop Hope your TG is doing well in her new pots. Lava rock sounds nice but definitely look for some large rocks maybe by the shore there to put on the top soil in the pot for weight! Couldn't hurt. @oursteelers 8B PNW Have you tried Emily Bronte or Eustacia along with Gabriel Oak? Curious which of the three has the strongest scent. I love the look of Emily Bronte when those subtle orange/yellow lantern-like colors are strong at her center....but I'm worried that it will just fade to white very fast here. I read somewhere that her scent was the strongest of the three. @strawchicago z5 Will have to look up the Australian documentary related to Super Size Me. Anytime I eat a lot of sugar my nose gets stuffy and I feel exhausted (even though I love ice cream every now and then). But it's incredible how quickly you can feel the effects of high processed foods sometimes. Also for anyone interested, there is a great documentary called The Biggest Little Farm (on hulu or netflix i think) about a couple that started their own organic farm. Not necessarily about roses....but very much in line with organic rose growing and all of the balances needed under, and above the soil for our roses to do well (roots, bugs, disease). Lots of interesting things in that documentary that relate to what we try to understand about growing roses (with the help of Straw's great knowledge and experiments)....See MoreSpring 2023 - What Roses Are You Planting In Your Garden?
Comments (1412)Kimberly - do you want to start a new Summer thread...it's a bit long to be running the Spring Seasonal thread. :) :) Kitty - Oh, that naughty Houzz. That can be so frustrating. Yeah, that'll be fun to grow them at the same time. :) :) Thank you about my yard and the wedding. I'm really hoping that my passifloras can start growing (seriously...they've done nothing all summer)...wouldn't they be beautiful along an arbor for Kedra/Chloe to get married? I'm going to grow them next year...and if they still don't do anything, I'll toss them. Rats. Plus, with their big leaves they get really torn apart by all the hail we get. That's a good idea about getting the soil ready for poppies in 2024. What kind of flowers did you get at Lowes? GardenNut - excellent about the lemon tree! You'll be selling glasses of lemonade in front of your house in no time. LOL :) Yeah, I don't think it's asking too much for our roses/plants to get it together and WOW us. :) :) Kitty - uh oh. I didn't see that coming. Your peony poppies got knocked to the ground by the rain. With our hail and downpours, I'm thinking that these poppies may not be a good idea. I was really excited about having them in the wedding bouquet. I guess I'll just try and see how it goes. :) Oh my gosh, your Gladiolas are sooo beautiful!!! I'm wondering about the flowers you've planted in the circle...will they be too short to be seen once the roses grow? I love your Mandevilla!!! Wonderful!! Your Rosemantic Fuchsia looks great! I'm starting to love my Rosemantic Cream...the blooms look like peony poppies...all stuffed with petals. Everything looks wonderful in your yard. :)...See Morejim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
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