Contractor painter vs independent?
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Comments (7)Regarding 1200cfm vs. 600cfm - In addition to what Guadalupe said about the ductwork, you want to make sure your duct has the right size diameter for the exhaust. An Independent 600cfm hood needs an 8" duct; an Independent 1200cfm hood needs a 10" duct (I don't know about Prestige). What size duct do you have? If you have a smaller duct than what is required, you will increase the noise substantially, and decrease the efficiency of the exhaust. Some manufacturers even void the warranty if the duct used is smaller than they've specified. I don't know about Prestige, but I do know that Independent used to make the hoods for Wolf (Wolf would just stick the Wolf badge on the Independent hood). Wolf decided to make its own hoods a year or so ago, but since Wolf is very careful about quality, I think it's a sign in Independent's favor that Wolf had previously chosen Independent to make the Wolf hoods....See More'Authorized' dealer/installer vs independent installer?
Comments (6)Often "Factory Authorized or Factory Certified" means nothing more than someone from the company sat through a 2 hour training course or watched a training video that told them what they already knew. In some cases, it means nothing more than the factory authorized/certified the dealer to sell their products based on the fact he was able to pay for them. The only certification that means anything IMO is the AAMA Installation Masters Certification. But, even that doesn't guarantee a good install nor does it mean that someone who isn't certified won't do an excellent job. It always comes down to the same thing, get recent references and call them. If you can, go by the job and see for yourself if it looks like quality work. Don't rely on certificates or time in business to be too much of an influence. I don't mean ignore them, but don't assign them too much weight. I'd rather have an enthusiastic installer with a great work ethic and a ton of experience who just started his own business working on my house than an old established company who views me as just another customer....See MoreDesigner vs contractor
Comments (41)Fools rush in where angels fear to tread...So make way for me. So I know very little about the specifics of this subject but I have a blot of experience with the agency problem. I think the truth is that you guys are probably both right. Design build firms certainly will have a conflict of interest that doesn't exist in the design-bid-build model. Essentially, design build firms are nothing more than backward or forward vertical integration of the building process (depending whether contractor led or architect led.) The problem with backward or forward vertical integration is that by definition it is limiting. As a contractor you are tying yourself to a few architects or designers who have in turn tied themselves to you. Now all this sounds really bad, but in truth it is really good for a lot of consumers. Vertical integration produces synergy which cuts down on time and produces efficiencies which convert to dollar savings. You will get a house faster and cheaper, holding everything else equal. The problem is that everything else is not always held equal. A design build firm will certainly build the same house cheaper but they do not necessarily build the same house. In fact, I would be very surprised if any design build firm didn't frequently supersede the owner's desires with their effeciencies. Again, that may be a good thing for a typical buyer, but atypical buyers would not be serviced as well by design build firms. It is impossible to achieve goal alignment for clients who want items that are inefficiencies for the builder. When goal alignment doesn't exist people will maximize their benefit to the detriment of others. In other words they will usually do what is better for the firm. I think what Renovator was getting at was that for the typical client who cares about money and time, design build firms are good. However, for the atypical client (which he identified as clients spending more money, but I identify as clients who simply are not concerned about the relative cost) a traditional design-bid-build would be preferred. Having said all that, using non residential construction is not really comparable to residential construction. First, because many multi-family and commercial projects will come with more specifics, and more importantly commercial really isn't design-build, it is closer to bid-design-build. Your competitive bidding and protection of consumers comes prior to the acceptance of the job. Finally, because I haven't typed enough already, just because architects benefit from saying that clients need an agent doesn't make it not true. Clients will absolutely benefit from someone in their corner but may not benefit enough to make doing it reasonable. Which brings us to the second point, having already hired and paid the designer in this case there was no reason not to keep them. Letting them go can't help and keeping them might....See MoreHRV/ERV from same Mfg as heat pump vs independent mfg
Comments (9)I agree with having a separate HVAC contractor. Get a few quotes separate from what the GC has done. Have the HVAC contractor do all the work related to these systems, including the required duct and heating/cooling calcs. As you've found, there are many popular ventilator companies that don't manufacture heating/cooling systems, so it's probably safe to assume a capable HVAC man can integrate whatever is chosen In suggesting the the HVAC contractor sub-out the duct design and installation, maybe fsq4's thoughts come from practices in his own country and area and that he's not familiar with what's done in the US. Here, established HVAC contractors, especially those who do new construction, often have the terms "sheet metal" in their business names because very many (most) do metal work themselves....See Morecat_ky
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