Norway Maple trunk/root rot?
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Comments (4)if you are in suburbia.... on a relatively small lot... say.. under 3 acres .... and you have any dreams of having a garden in your yard ... DO NOT PLANT NORWAY MAPLE .... IMHO .... healthy trees are well suited to keeping themselves alive .... though i would be concerned that you lost 2 old timers... i would consider that they already had other problems... or were past maturity .. and in decline ... i dont have the time to research your specific problem.. so if what i said directly above is stupid.. so be it.. lol please rethink the norways... you wont even be able to grow the most common weed in the world under it .. grass ... ken...See Morefurther questions about Norway Maple and Serviceberry
Comments (3)I do not think that keeping the Norway Maple as a snag will cause toxins to persist longer. Even if you cut the maple you will still leave most of the roots in the ground, so I don't think there is a big difference between cutting and killing it for a snag. I also do not think that the toxins are the biggest problem created by Norway Maples. I think the dense shade and dense, shallow roots are the problem. Once the tree is dead these two problems will disappear. However, the tree will not be dead immediately whether you cut it or snag it. In either case the roots and stump may try to live for a while. Therefore I do not think it is a great idea to plant the serviceberry immediately. Can you wait and plant it later, perhaps in the fall? You probably would want to transplant it to a larger pot for the summer. I definitely would not dig a hole in clayey soil and amend it with bagged soil. This will create a bowl in the clay, which will fill of water, potentially causing your serviceberry to drown. Even if it lives the serviceberry may never root right because of the difference between the amended soil in the hole and the unamended soil in surrounding the hole. Instead I would plant the bush in the native clayey soil. Many plants will do very well in clay, and your serviceberry is probably one of them. I would amend all of the soil beneath the existing tree by digging in several inches of leaves, rotted leaves, compost, peat moss, or other organic material into the top 6 or 12 inches. I think the more organic material and the deeper you dig it the better. However, you might not be able to dig because of the tree roots. The alternative is to simply place 6 inches of organic material over the surface and allow nature to work it into the soil - that is how it is done in the forest. I prefer to use fallen leaves for this purpose, but you could use compost or some other organic material if you don't have leaves. If you use leaves, you should place them at least foot deep or more, since they will compress to a depth of 4 or 6 inches after the first couple of rains. As the leaves rot they will help create a topsoil laver and you can begin to add plants. If you are instead trying to have a lawn you might want to try to loosen the existing soil or import a few inches of soil to allow you to plant grass. If the tree has really shallow roots that are sticking out of the ground, then importing soil will probably work better and certainly will be quicker than removing the roots or waiting for them to rot....See MoreWhat will grow under Norway maples?
Comments (0)Here is the range of responses to this question ranging from nothing to quite a selection. The low light, dry soil, surface roots and the seedlings present a challenge. (Limbing up (removing lower branches) and planting away from the trunk will improve your choices. (Ed.) Nothing seems to grow under a mature Norway Maple. I would cut it down, buy a new tree and start from scratch. I hate to be so negative but I've had to do it. It is dry in the shade of just about any maple, but Norway Maples in particular cast very dense shade. You might be able to get something to grow under there, but it will be a real challenge finding plants that can take the lack of moisture and light. My grass does grow quite well under it We have Elephant Ear, Caladium, Coleus, Impatiens, Azaleas and Lilies growing under our Norway Maple The Azaleas and spring bulbs have bloomed before the tree leafs out completely and the others grow wonderfully in the moist/shady conditions provided by the dense canopy. (Moist shade? Ed.) Epimediums are an excellent choice for dry shade. I started a shade garden under 30 year old maple about 4 years ago. The farther from the base of the tree, the more will grow and the more lush the plants. What has grown best for me, Hosta and Christmas fern. For spring flowers hardy Geraniums "Karmina" and "Biokovo". I planted them last year and they not only tripled in size but bloomed profusely. Stay away from most Astilbe, they need moisture. They may "exist" but will not perform. I have had luck with one variety, though, A. Chinensis. It is dwarf, blooms in August, and has spread into a nice ground cover. Toad lilies for fall. I really love them. You may want to give Plumbago larpentae (Certostigma plumbaginoides) a try. It is now in bloom at the base of the tree. Don't plant too close, and plant so you'll get some sun. But you'll always have to pull up gazillions of unwanted seedlings every spring, And you'll always have to remove the leaves in the spring, since maple leaves compact and plants can't grow through them. I have had luck with Iris, Lamium, specimen grasses (Miscanthus), Columbines, Penstemmon, Sedums, Pansies, Violas, and Geraniums (Johnsons blue and natives) in dry shade. I also only set out small plants that do not require me to dig deep holes. I grow Daffodils and Bluebells under maples and also find that Azaleas and Camellias do well as flowering shrubs. My Hellebores also love living in the mulch. My neighbor has success with Japanese anemonies, also known as windflowers Pulmanaria does well for me under dense lilacs Thalictrum does great under dry shade. My Toad Lily needs a lot of moisture Sweet Williams are growing wonderfully under my Maple...as are Daffodils, Hyacinth's (including the little Grape Hyacinth), Solomons Seal, Day Lily, Widows Tears (or Trinity Plant), Shasta Daises, Astilbe, Hostas (Sum and Substance), Coreopsis (Sunray), Creeping Phlox too. Another strong plant that tolerates these conditions is Lamiastrum 'Herman's Pride' (the one that is NOT invasive)--beautiful silvery green foliage and pretty yellow flowers in spring But Dicentra (wild and common) do fine, as do Toad Lilies, Solomons Seal, Filipendula, several ornamental grasses, of course ferns, Heuchera, Aconitum (Monkshood), Epimediums, Yews, Pieris andromeda, Kalmia (Mountain Laurel), shade-loving vines....See MoreWhat are some ways to deal with the invasive norway maple roots?
Comments (2)The underlying problem, if not excess shade, is root competition. The tree was there first and its needs come first. Its roots have most likely explored every cubic inch of soil. To establish any new plants in that root zone, you will need to manage them as if they're in intensive care. Perhaps set up a drip system for each newbie....See MoreAm
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