Does the bump out go all the way to the ground below? Or is it an overhang over the first floor? If it doesn't "have a bottom" if you will and is an overhang, I would not want to put any plumbing in their, insulation or not. Are there windows in the bedroom? closet? I know people like to put tubs in front of windows, but it never made sense to me. I know from a look point of view it's great, but when you're in the tub, the window is too high up to see out of and may cause drafts. Else the window causes privacy issues so has to be covered anyway. We open our windows all the time and want to be able to walk up to them to do that. With a tub in front, I know Dh would be stepping in, shoes and all, scratching the tub, to get to the window. You might want to look at other floor plans to see how they lay out the master suite. The natural tendency is to put things up against the walls as you have done, but it may not be the best option.

The time has come when we REALLY need to make up our mind. Plumber is going to get to the master bath in a couple of days. Electrician wants to know where to put lights. Here are 4 layouts we are considering. Each layout shows 2 bed positions. We think Position 1 provides for the best interior decorating options and looks best in the room (opposite the sliding glass doors), and Position 2 provides for better views and generally better traffic flow, especially in Plan A. Note: The ceiling is slightly vaulted (1/12 slope) with peak in dressing room. Plan A: what is currently framed. POSITIVES: it's currently framed, you enter right into the bedroom, and the dressing room area is nice and symmetric, a nice room into itself. The door is clearly visible. NEGATIVES: upon entering the bedroom, with bed in Position 2, you are right at the head of the bed. With bed in Position 1, you have to walk around it to go to the dressing / bath area. It may be a positive or negative (depending on how you look at it) that you enter the bathroom and can go straight into the toilet, though there is a door there. On the other hand, upon entering the bathroom, when you turn to the right, you'll see a very cool angular freestanding tub (LACAVA) which will look better from a few feet away at the top of the bathroom. Plan B: entering the bedroom up just a bit from what we currently have framed. POSITIVES: upon entering upstairs, you could easily go to the bedroom or bathroom. I kind of like entering the master bath in this position, straight to sink and no way will toilet be in view. We could even consider removing the door to the toilet. I also like this entry better in terms of stepping in and not entering right at the head of the bed in Position 2. Could put low linen closet opposite toilet entry. NEGATIVES: there is a door to the suite that can be closed off to make the whole suite private, but you can't see the door from either bed position. Dressing area closets aren't quite balanced, though this could be OK. Per earlier comment, when you walk into the bathroom and turn to the right the tub will be RIGHT there. We could of course use this Plan B but keep our existing bathroom entry. (this became Plan D) Plan C: straight shot up to the top and then take a left to the bedroom. POSITIVES: Maximizes headboard width for the bed in Position 1. Best layout for someone with a king size bed (which is not us). Clean traffic flow. Upon entering bedroom, bed in position 2 is right in view. Preferred bathroom entry NEGATIVES: no structure to hold up the 6' high headboard wall, so an "L" is added which could hold light switches but is not optimal aesthetically. Could either put a post there or give up the short wall idea and go straight to the ceiling. Plan D: Like Plan B, but with bathroom entry and closets adjusted to be like A. POSITIVES: It's already framed. Best view of bathroom when you walk in because tub and shower will be at some distance. Room will feel bigger I think than in B. Closets are more symmetric than B. NEGATIVES: Same ones as B. Can't see door from bed. Comments anyone? Is anything jumping out to anyone that I'm missing? Thanks in advance!!!!

I like the larger bathroom, but I think the doors conflict and it is nice to have them open into the closet. I'd do a good pocket door into the bathroom to avoid more conflict although it could open against the wall next to the sink. You do loose more closet storage, but corners aren't all that valuable in a closet. You could fit a lot of clothes in there by double hanging rods. That would save some money over the Pax system. Plus your closet now seems more separate from the bathroom by extending the wall. Here is another idea for the main bath. My daughter has stacked washer and dryer and is short, but uses the arrangement well. You have plenty of room in front of the W/D to get clothes in and out. The toilet is off to the side. The vanity could be 72 inches with 2 sinks. The bonus is the door would open up against the tub and the room would feel more open. The laundry would be easily accessible without the bathroom door being in the way. Folding laundry in the laundry room is overrated. I had a nice space for folding laundry in our 1 st house with a window to look out. I usually took the laundry to the TV area and sat down on the floor to fold.

While I think the revisions addressed some issues, I would 1. make the vanity longer and use up all the space possible. Remember, 2 sink vanities lose a lot of drawer/storage space. Also, is there any other storage in the bathroom? Where will a towel-rack go or even a bar to hang a towel? 2. A desk inside the closet? Not what I would do, but maybe you have a good reason. You're going to need some serious lighting conditions in there to address the needs of someone working at the desk. 3. You must have a great relationship with a plumber, because none of the water-needing devices are back-to-back which means a whole lot of plumbing. 4. I'd probably close up that door from the bathroom to the closet. 1st, you get more hanging space in the closet. 2nd, you get room to add a tall bank of cabinets in the bathroom for storage. 5. Is that the shower in the upper left corner? 6' by 5'? That's an awfully big shower (bigger showers not always better, since it might not be as warm in there), and then a little dinky toilet area which is going to feel cramped. 6. The master bedroom is still so big you can fit a sofa in there. This is my personal preference, but here you are adding all this "utility" to a big space...2 bathrooms, a desk to work at, a new laundry room... and yet you still want all that roomy space around the bed. I just wouldn't want that, if I were you. To me, I consider having separate vanities a far bigger luxury than space around a bed, or having a sofa in my bedroom. I do think it's a great idea to have the laundry close to the kitchen like that. But a powder room that is going to flush while people are dining at the table? And they'll be able to smell from there? All in all, I don't really know why you are opposed to getting an architect. I'd want it done right for the amount of money you'll end up paying for construction.