ProVia 42" x 96" entry door

last year

Does anyone have a Fiberglass ProVia 42" x 96" door? Is it a heavy door? My space is 72" wide x 96" high. I would love to see photos. I wanted sidelights but they don't have what I need. The dealer said that over time the weight of the door will pull on the hinges. He suggested that I go with a shorter door and put a transom above. That is not what I want. My ceilings inside the house are 10' high and all of my doors are going to be 8' high. The covered porch is 11' high or maybe 12' high. In the beginning, I was going to do double entry doors but because of where we are located, I have been told that is not a good idea because of the wind, red dirt, and winter and not a good enough seal. I thought about doing a 42" door and window on the side just so I could see who is at the door. .

Thanks, Sue

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millworkman
last year
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Make sure they use at least 4 ball bearing hinges and a solid 5/4" frame (preferable to finger joint in my opinion) and you should have no issues.
wyosue58
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last year
@millworkman thanks
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"...If she had her way there'd just be a single door with no windows or sidelights--just 16' of wall minus the door width..." I could be wrong, but it sounds like the issue needs to be resolved internally with spouses...with a 16-foot wide opening which is 2-stories tall...that's some major space...you got to this point without agreement on how to handle it? There are many design solutions for letting natural light into such a space, but preserving privacy for the homeowners, but they need to be explored with someone who has done this sort of thing before successfully. Are you working with any design professionals?
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Go custom for the perfect door and though more expensive than a standard purchase, it can be built to match your vision and standards. A capable millwork shop can turn it into reality. Just as an example to indicate what is possible and although not everyones cup of tea, we designed our own massive 123”W x 98”H door; I designed/created and provided all detailed drawings with dimensions. A glass vendor built the two sealed unit sidelites, again to my design specs with frosted glass on inside and out hence totally opaque but lets light in. Although my builder helped lift and put the massive door in place, with only an 1/8” to spare on each side, I did the final installation and alignment. Results are nothing short of spectacular. Pics below. Exterior Railing is only temporary and the plastic wrap on the inside is to prevent anyone opening the door even though it has an electronic lock.
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I prefer double doors but your entry way is only about the size of the overall door opening, so I think it would look out of scale. I think what you have looks in scale with your porch/stoop, and will continue to look best with a sidelights on each side. That being said, what is hideous about your existing door? From the picture it looks fine and I would paint it a nice bold color. If you're looking to add glass, you could have glass inserted in the door top to bottom quite economically. Just a thought... Good luck with your decision!
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Hi Judy, Sorry for the delayed response, I was out of town. I live in CA. The shipping PDC uses is FedEx Ground regardless of where in the country you are located. The doors I ordered were packaged in a custom sized and built wooden crate with sufficient dunnage to ensure the doors arrive undamaged. I don't think there is any issue just because you are in PA, As to the dimensional info you are receiving. A 60" wide pivot door with a 12" from door edge pivot location needs approximately a 63" rough opening to achieve a 60" finish opening (i.e. the door will be 60" wide, but the casing will add approximately 3/4" each side, but you also need room for shims, etc. As for the distance of the pivot point to the door edge, you will see that PDC will allow a variety of pivot placement options: (from their website) The pivot placement is the distance the pivot pin will be placed away from the vertical edge of the rough opening. Generally speaking, we suggest placing the pivot over one quarter of the distance of the door width. We find that this presents a solid aesthetic for most door dimensions. See table below for suggested pivot placements. If your rough opening is 48” and you choose a 9” pivot placement, the door will roughly have a 37” pass through opening. You want to ensure you leave at least a 36” opening. See diagram for details or contact us for clarification. As stated above, if you only had room for a 42" wide door, 1/4 of that is 10.5", therefore the egress would actually only be 31" which is too narrow. HOWEVER, with only a 42" wide door, PDC will allow a 4" pivot placement, resulting in a 37" opening. I think it best that you call PDC or else configure the door you think you want on their configuration page. It won't let you order a door that won't actually work and function well. However, I would have your architect review to insure that the door you choose is proportionally correct and aesthetically pleasing. Be advised that PDC is a custom pivot door builder, so they can build to any width and height you specify. Attached is a picture from the inside of the exterior door "Sydney in white oak" from when it was just installed in our house (sorry, only photo I had on my phone; door had yet to be clear stained and sealed). The second picture is of the exterior of the house; you can see the exterior of the entry door. (The white oak shutters you see are part of an outside room, and pivot as well, but from the center - to control light and airflow in the outside room. Continued best on your project! JE
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chispa
last year
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My previous house had a 42" x 96" wood door and it was about 18 years old when we sold the house. 4 high quality hinges. No issues with pulling, sagging or anything else.

From my experience, door weight when operating a door is a function of the quality of the hinges and not so much of the actual weight of the door.

Get a better door dealer! I would try to find a model with sidelites ... don't settle ... you'll regret it for years to come.

In the house we just built I have 12 foot ceilings and we designed a 42" x 120" custom wood door with 24" x 120" sidelites with impact rated glass. This door has 5 heavy duty hinges and a 5-point locking system. Designed to local hurricane codes.
wyosue58
Original Author
last year
@chispa

Thanks, the dealers I have talked to are ProVia, Waudena, and ThermaTru. None of them have what I want and my search is not gaining results. I live in a semi-remote area and right now I can't travel to even go look at doors. I thought my house would be move-in ready by the end of the summer but the way things are going--it might be next spring or summer.
JP Haus
last year
@wyosue58, we do not although I searched for quite a while to find a 42" wide fiberglass door and in particular one that's impact/storm rated. If wind is an issue in your location you may be out of luck.

I'm very impressed by the doors @chispa described and wish there was someone in our area who could do such custom work. We've compromised on a lot just to get the house built. It will be a comfortable house but its best feature is being less than three miles from our grandchild.

We went with ProVia, but our front door is only 36" X 80". We were not able to get a transom, so ended up with a door featuring (slightly obscuring) impact glass. While it's nice to have the light, I regret that we're losing privacy at night. We hope to address that problem soon after we move in.

We also were not able to see the door, or much of anything else, before ordering. Our timing on building was lousy, but it was important to us to be near our grandchild sooner rather than later.

Permits were pulled in December 2020, foundation work began the following March, and we're still not done. Our latest completion estimate is in about two weeks. We hope that enough will be finished to get our Certificate of Occupancy, especially since our pool builder recently informed us they won't complete and fill our pool until the house is occupied.
wyosue58
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last year
@JP Haus

Thanks, I too wish I had someone that could build the door system but where I live that is not an option. Hopefully, my builder and my designer can meet with me soon. Like @chispa said--don't settle for something that I don't want. If I could find a sidelight that is operational for a wider opening--I would do that. That would be my first choice but I would want the sidelight to have glass that is up maybe 5 feet. I just want to be able to see if anyone is at the door.

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