Today, it's 'Alice Hamilton' Of-Commerce
jerijen
4 months ago
This is the rose imported by Vintage Gardens as 'Alice Hamilton' (which most authorities think is "Not-Alice-Hamilton."
i don't care what you call it, I just really love it.
Blooming today, Thurs., Jan. 6, in Coastal Southern California.
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Comments (18)There are no easy answers but it is a good question to think about. I have traded cuttings and plants and know for certain that most of the people I've traded with continue to do a lot of plant buying from the nurseries. These are seriously addicted people who are not going to be satiated with a few plants traded! Many people who trade don't have a huge number of plants and will always turn to the nurseries for their large selections. The example Ann gave could also apply to a nursery owner buying plants from another nursery owner. He/she might say, " I am going to propagate a lot of these plants and sell them and give you a bit of competition." Would that be a sorry way to treat the person he bought from? I don't think so. We all have to get our plants somewhere. Do most nursery owners dislike selling to other nurseries? I question whether a small new nursery might be subjected to the same disfavor that a small time trader might get. Keeping them in commerce might be better than just trading because the nursery owner is putting so much in to the whole thing, keeping obscure varieties available, educating people, etc. A private garden owner can also keep obscure varieties going, educate, etc. . When it comes to " BAD rose traders" spank spank ( unpatented) I just can't go there yet. I have been limiting my trades anyway for this important reason: a nursery owner is more likely to recognize disease and refuse to send a diseased plant. I have also seen nursery owners who may not have taken the time to look over a plant before mailing. I am treating some nursery bought plants with systemic soil drench today because some kind of white thready nymph fell from the leaves to the soil when it warmed up. I think supporting a nursery with a big inventory is worthwhile because the huge inventory is such a vast effort to maintain, and it is such a resource to find them all in one place. And many of us like those people. Melis, if you're still reading, I've been thinking that one unpatented plant you could trade for which has a lot of orange in it is Clementina Carbonnieri. Or you could buy it. It should do well in zone 8 and would not need spraying, while an orange Austin is likely to need spraying. You can see pictures of it at www.helpmefind.com/roses. You can do a search and then click on the photos tab. Linda...See MoreOne of my new David Austin roses has RMV. What should I do?
Comments (85)"Propagation: Rosa Damascena is propagated through one year old stem cuttings. It can also be propagated through the divisions of old plant, lateral sprouts with roots and seeds. Stem cuttings are collected at the time of pruning in mid October to end of December; 20 cm long, 0.75-1.50 cm thick cuttings are planted in nursery; 2/3 of the stem length is inserted into soil. IB A @ 200-250 ppm is given to induce rooting. These cuttings are ready after one year for transplanting into main field." http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.2478/V10133-010-0032-4 ---------------------------------------------- " The cultivars and ecotype of Rosa damascena Mill. have been grown by using cutting or two old-suckers for many years" "Stem cuttings are collected at the time of pruning in mid October to end of December; 20 cm long, 0.75-1.50 cm thick cuttings are planted in nursery; 2/3 of the stem length is inserted into soil. IB A @ 200-250 ppm is given to induce rooting. These cuttings are ready after one year for transplanting into main field." "Rooted stem cuttings are taken out from nursery and put in the pits." "The best time of transplanting of rooted cuttings in the field is mid of November to mid January. " http://www.plantsrescue.com/tag/damask-rose/...See MoreFall Rose Orders?
Comments (30)I'll have lots of new roses to admire next spring--I hope--without my having ordered any! How does one accomplish this miracle, you ask? Well, last winter we made a huge order from Petrovic. We've been in drought ever since, and while heroic watering from DH has kept many (most? I hope!) of them alive, they're only alive, and didn't bloom last spring. Or they bloomed a bit, but it was too murderously sunny and hot for me to venture out to look at them. So, assuming that most of them are still alive next spring, and have gotten enough precipitation actually to grow, I should see a lot of roses blooming for the first time. I'm keeping my fingers crossed....See MoreA List: Roses We Know are Incorrectly or Correctly Labeled
Comments (57)Thank you, Cath. Understood. Hopefully if we leave more on it now, even with the potential of losing some due to the cold, it will emerge larger on the other side. I've been trying to generate appropriate material for demonstrations and this just isn't the right set of conditions for wrapping and budding with the dropping temps and reducing light quality is miffy at best. If the material is available when they are better, I'd rather now waste it, our time, energy and postage. Preparing them is so easy, you'll probably feel, "that's IT?" Happy Thanksgiving!...See Morejerijen
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