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Comments (18)There are no easy answers but it is a good question to think about. I have traded cuttings and plants and know for certain that most of the people I've traded with continue to do a lot of plant buying from the nurseries. These are seriously addicted people who are not going to be satiated with a few plants traded! Many people who trade don't have a huge number of plants and will always turn to the nurseries for their large selections. The example Ann gave could also apply to a nursery owner buying plants from another nursery owner. He/she might say, " I am going to propagate a lot of these plants and sell them and give you a bit of competition." Would that be a sorry way to treat the person he bought from? I don't think so. We all have to get our plants somewhere. Do most nursery owners dislike selling to other nurseries? I question whether a small new nursery might be subjected to the same disfavor that a small time trader might get. Keeping them in commerce might be better than just trading because the nursery owner is putting so much in to the whole thing, keeping obscure varieties available, educating people, etc. A private garden owner can also keep obscure varieties going, educate, etc. . When it comes to " BAD rose traders" spank spank ( unpatented) I just can't go there yet. I have been limiting my trades anyway for this important reason: a nursery owner is more likely to recognize disease and refuse to send a diseased plant. I have also seen nursery owners who may not have taken the time to look over a plant before mailing. I am treating some nursery bought plants with systemic soil drench today because some kind of white thready nymph fell from the leaves to the soil when it warmed up. I think supporting a nursery with a big inventory is worthwhile because the huge inventory is such a vast effort to maintain, and it is such a resource to find them all in one place. And many of us like those people. Melis, if you're still reading, I've been thinking that one unpatented plant you could trade for which has a lot of orange in it is Clementina Carbonnieri. Or you could buy it. It should do well in zone 8 and would not need spraying, while an orange Austin is likely to need spraying. You can see pictures of it at www.helpmefind.com/roses. You can do a search and then click on the photos tab. Linda...See MoreInfo on Some of the Lesser Known Austins??? -LONG-
Comments (45)WOW!! Thanks a bunch Celeste. Those are the best pics I have ever seen of Mayor of Casterbridge to date.....The blooms are amazing.....a very strongly supported cup with tufts of exterior petals outside the cup and moderately and artistically packed interior petals. The contrasting button eye fits it well. My one question about MOC was whether or not the blooms were large enough, but going from the proportion of the blooms in comparison to your hand, they look HUGE. How large would you say MOC's blooms are? I have only heard a few vague reports that they were small, although like yourself, I have heard so little about Mayor of Casterbridge. I was only going to get 1 pink.....but now I have to kill one of the children and choose between Pretty Jessica, Mayor of Casterbridge, and the other pinks. I have a feeling I might end up getting 2 of the pinks....which would still make the decision terribly difficult. After 3 days of viewing and researching, I have only decided on a white in winchester cathedral. :) I'm still looking over yellows at the moment and my top 2 so far are Golden Celebration and Charlotte, although I would have probably chosen Charles Darwin as it has big cup shaped blooms, but it doesn't look as if Roses Unlimited carries him. That is going to be a toughy decision there. Happy Child is still a possibility as well, although it's a little more lemony color rather than a yellow that I am leaning more towards at the moment. Grace is a unique Austin. The bloom form is unique from the others. I havn't looked at the apricots much yet, so it's hard saying off hand which ones I am seriously considering. I know I saw Carding Mill and really enjoyed it's appearance or substituting it for an orange blend like Lady Emma Hamilton.....or going off the wall and choosing The Alnwick Rose...although I've heard the blooms are quite small. Still have a lot of research to do on Apricots, Oranges, and Alnwick itself. I still have to choose on one of the "reds" too yet. :) At least I have Evelyn and Winchester Cathedral down though....assuming they still have them in stock....See MoreA List: Roses We Know are Incorrectly or Correctly Labeled
Comments (57)Thank you, Cath. Understood. Hopefully if we leave more on it now, even with the potential of losing some due to the cold, it will emerge larger on the other side. I've been trying to generate appropriate material for demonstrations and this just isn't the right set of conditions for wrapping and budding with the dropping temps and reducing light quality is miffy at best. If the material is available when they are better, I'd rather now waste it, our time, energy and postage. Preparing them is so easy, you'll probably feel, "that's IT?" Happy Thanksgiving!...See More2019 Roses Unlimited Sale (June 3 - 19)
Comments (96)Another fun comparison: Left: RU, Distant Thunder, Own Root, I’ve had it about 1 month. This plant had the thinnest stems of the three, also had smaller root ball than the K&M. Very healthy, put out a lot of new growth Middle: Wayside, Molineaux, Bare Root, Dr Huey, also had it about a month. By far the thickest stems, but of course being bare root had to grow new feeder roots. Good progress, there’s even a bud. Right: K&M, Buxom Beauty ,Fortuniana, just arrived today. Thicker stems than the RU rose, also had a very dense rootball. Was trimmed short significantly to fit in packing box so most of the mature foliage is gone, but lots of new growth remains, even 2 buds. I’m very happy with all three providers, and thankful that I’m able to get hard-to-find varities in mid summer in great health!...See Morejerijen
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