A $$$ Kitchen in TH Mag - Signs of Kitchen Design Changes?
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Must sign off on kitchen plan ... suggestions please
Comments (10)Troff, I did an extensive remodel of 1980's kitchen in 2005. You need to have your designer incorporate that post into the island. Otherwise it is an eye-sore to your beautiful remodel! How about an L shaped island? Or a large rectangle with seating for 4? My island is a 9'x 4.6' rectangle and it is seamless. It has seating for two at one end. It can be done with a good granite installer. ALSO if you cut any holes in your granite (such as your sink area) demand that the granite people finish off that piece that is removed and you can use it as a fabulous cutting board! (That round sink will give you a wonderful granite cheese server!) I had a 4'x2' cutout from my island (where the stove was) that we ended up using for the main floor bathroom. So save yourself some money and keep those pieces of granite. Also, I would suggest you use that post to put all your "charger" outlets. I see you have them in a drawer, but from experience, I know that you will want to charge your phones/ipods/etc on top of the island! I had that kind of drawer set up and it was a total waste. It "seems like a good idea, but in reality, you will want to charge your phone quickly (like while eating dinner) and to have it setting on the island is so much easier! I also started off with a knife block inside a drawer, but ended up getting a magnetic strip (2 actually) that I got at Ikea that I could put all my knifes up high, so little grandkids could not open a drawer and grab a knife (it happens!) Anyway, drawer space is at a premium in your design, so I would look at a different way to store your knifes. I too have a spice roll out and love it. I also put a mixer lift in, plus I put in a steamer and fryer (Wolf appliances) and I will tell you the steamer is used more than anything else in my kitchen. It is 220 amp and heats 2 gallons of water in less than 4 minutes, so all my pasta, corn, veggies,etc. are cooked there and it is easy to clean and easy to use! It would be a nice addition to the area that you have that round sink in, as you can get a faucet that will fill the steamer and also make the steamer easy to clean! Hope that helps - I have photos if you would like to see them. Get that island perfect and you will love your new kitchen! L Smith PS We put in 2 dishwashers, one on each side of our Franke sink, and we will NEVER have a home without 2 dishwashers! It makes cooking so much fun, as you just load dirty pots and pans as you go and wa-lah, you have a clean kitchen when finished cooking! I know this is a condo, so probably no room, but it is definitely a plus when you move up to a home (if ever)....See MoreSigns that a new kitchen is needed...
Comments (83)When the 1970s range with eye level second oven sticks out a foot into the kitchen because the electrician who took it out to work behind it (cutting the end off a countertop to do so) can't force it back in again, and neither can I and my 280lb friend combined. When someone had to saw off lower shelf of the cabinet over the range to get it in there in the first place, and it's now a gaping hole When said range is painted with peeling cream latex paint over harvest gold original color When removing the range reveals that the opening for the vent hood has been covered over and there's a handwritten note on the wall saying the electrical feel has been removed as well When because of the lack of a vent fan, the soffit has decorative brown spots all round the edge where the nails holding the corner bead have rusted through the paint from the condensation When the vinyl floor has multiple dings and tears, as well as paint spots from the bathroom paint job (puke pink) and the kitchen paint job (sky blue) When rats come though into the kitchen from the crawl space via the gap next to the hot air duct, and run back and forth stealing the dry cat food (ignored by both cats and visitng dog) When the silverware drawer twists sideways and jams every time someone other than me tries to push it in (I've developed a knack, I guess) When the rim of the sink is 1/4" above the countertop it's set into, and the gap is full of ick. When the replaced-just-before-I bought-the-place countertop is mottled, textured laminate which is impossible to clean (if you can even tell it's dirty!) When there's nothing but a gaping hole where the dishwasher ought to be When you have to have multiple clip-on lights attached to the upper cabinets to see anything at all, because the main light fitting is a single bulb in the middle of the ceiling When you remove all the upper cabinet doors in exasperation because the handles are in the CENTER of each door and they are awkward to reach and you can't tell which way the door will open from where the handle is When you clean all the cabinets twice and they still feel dirty When the cabinet handles look like something out of a bad bodice-ripper novel When the light switch for the over-sink light used to be directly over the range, but has been moved along the wall to beside the sink using surface-mounted fittings. When the microwave blows the breaker if the fridge comes on at the same time (and the outlet it's plugged into is INSIDE the upper cabinet above it When the whole kitchen, apart from the range, runs off one electrical circuit which also serves other rooms as well When the water coming out of the cold tap is a brown trickle so you use hot water for everything. When the outlets on the backsplash are installed not quite horizontally, and are painted dark teal, from the decorative generation before the sky blue paint on the cabinets and soffit. When all the windows are single glazed aluminum sliders that need plastic film over them every winter. When the floor is freezing cold because rats have ripped down a lot of the under-floor insulation in the crawlspace below. On the bright side, the fridge is almost new, there's a 6 ft stretch of uninterrupted counter space, and lots of cabinet space. I've lived with it for 3 years only because I'm still working on the bathroom, which was even worse! Here is a link that might be useful: The house when I bought it, inclding the kitchen and even worse bathroom...See MoreAbout to sign off on my kitchen layout. Thoughts?
Comments (137)Nathan, I was only hoping to spark an idea. I really hoped someone might see a way to incorporate your desires for the prep and cooking to be facing towards your guests. I realize it is petty much impossible to pull off with your size constraints. You mostly see that on the cooking channel with a tv set kitchen and no huge range hood blocking and making noise. I think you need to have way more space then you have unfortunately. :-( If you do like the general placement of the sink and range open concept like you want, I think you probably would need to bump out that whole nook/great room wall a few more feet towards the veranda in order to get the proper clearances for the range. You'd need to get professional advice on that. Here is an old thread, but Greendesigns explains very well about cooktops on a peninsula. http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/2698245/cooktop-on-peninsula-really-an-issue?n=39 Basically you will need a very powerful hood that is bigger then the actual cooktop. Even wider then the recommended 6" wider if it is just against the wall with cabinets. That equates to $$$$$! I reread what GreenDesigns actually said as far as spinning the island to make it a peninsula. She said move the range to the "back wall", so obviously not the crazy spinout I did. haha! I admit didn't read very well this thread late last night. I do know she is a very experienced Kitchen Designer. I think there are several others who post here on GW. I remember, Live wire oak, Sophie, Jakuval, Kompy aka the kitchen place, and probably a few more I am sorry I forget right now. So if in your research you see those names take note. Buehl, Mamagoose, Cpartist, funkycamper, lavenderlass, benjesbride, Jillius, Sena, and oh so many more my brain cannot think, they also could be KD's they are so good at this. Cpartist, I agree your layout and every other layout presented is far far better. Yeah, duh! I just am curious as to why you said it was a one person kitchen. I thought a one butt kitchen meant the chef was unable to do his or her thang without other people getting in the way. For instance, a second helper cleaning up at the dw or prepping at a secondary area would be completely impossible. I have much to learn, so when I get time I'll try and research more on that, Well, at least with the info you've been given, I know you will get a much better kitchen Nathan. I will look forward to seeing how it turns out. Please post a reveal....See More11th Hour Kitchen Decisions - HELP!!
Comments (52)Just a couple of comments: the design is very thought out, I can see that 1. can you go lower on the window near the sink? You want to have a view, and the window is too high. 2. Can you possibly add symmetry to the kitchen? It looks very strange: - 2 windows of different size and height, cabinets on each side of the sink are of different height and different style, plus there is a shelf that would not 3. the place for a table is very cramped, any way you can change it? 4. think of incorporating drawers not doors ito bottom cabinets. please for ideas you can look at ikea kitchen idea pages, it will add more storage and be more usable, and less messy, it might also allow replacing some top cabinets with shelves or glass doors if desired only of course. 5. love benjesbride idea - airy and comfortable 6. does the budget allow for cabinets instead movable carts or...See Moresushipup2
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