Coverage on Sherwin Williams colours with high reflective white base

2 years ago

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Hi all,

I've got a bit of a complication with my paint choices. I had posted earlier re: my choice of Sherwin Williams Cheviot, which has an LRV of 89. My painting has been slightly delayed a bit because of this issue (not too bad because they've been removing the popcorn ceiling this past week).

Sherwin Williams has told my painter (and me, when I confirmed with them), that Cheviot is made using the High Reflective White base, which has very little coverage over darker walls. Apparently this is because of the high LRV. The walls in my place currently are a deep tan/gold/brown colour, and they told me that Cheviot might not even cover that after four or five coats. I asked about certain other whites, including White Flour, and they said they're the same because of the High Reflective White base. I noticed that White Flour also has a fairly high LRV (87).

Looks like the painters will have to prime over the darker colour first, and then use multiple coats of Cheviot over the top.

Otherwise, they said if I use something like WestHighland White, that would have more coverage because they can mix it using a different base (I think they said the base for that would be Extra White).

Has anyone heard of this before? Curious about others' experiences

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jackowskib
2 years ago
I can speak only to having done our master bath and closet, and it seemed crazy to me that the previous color was SW Accessible Beige (not dark) and we were redoing in BM Super White. The painters did not prime bath area before painting saying they prefer to just use the paint in more coats, which was absurd to me at $75 a can of BM paint! Took them 3 coats. I was responsible for doing the large closet and although I primed first, still it took two coats for full coverage. I would insist on priming 2 coats if necessary (and cheaper), matter of fact have the primer tinted to the room color might help too. I swear paint is getting thinner requiring more coats no matter what. I've used Behr, SW and BM and find this to be the case. Good luck to you!!
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Patricia Colwell Consulting
2 years ago
IMO over a dark wall you prime twice and coat twice no matter how reflective the paint is .It really has very little bearing on the actual work needed . Any paint unless darker than the one on the wall will for sure need 2 coats of paint and IMO priming is always the best way to handle painting unless you are using the exact same paint. BTW I do not think there is any paint that is primer and paint in one no matter what they say.
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Dark colors can be hard to cover, but can be done using a few tricks of the trade.

I have covered deep burgundy and deep teal with white paints (91 LRV) using this trick...

The deep teal I got Zinsser Bulls Eye 123 primer (my favorite general use primer) with 2 oz of white tint added to the primer. One coat of primer and 2 coats of high quality paint covered without any color showing through.

The deep burgundy (reds are notoriously difficult to cover) I used the same trick with the 123 primer and then did a coat of a less expensive flat white paint with 4 oz of white tint added. Flat paint has better hide than higher gloss paints. I then painted 2 coats of high quality paint and again got great coverage without any color showing through.
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Coverage on Sherwin Williams colours with high reflective white base

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