What’s whiter than very slightly gray white? You’re at the extreme end of diminishing returns. There’s hardly any tint in the can to change or reduce. If you want a blue, you need to choose something with a lot more chroma to it than that. That doesn’t qualify.

Going higher in LRV means you are looking for a "cold" white that gives off a blue tone. Might still turn grey inside the shadow in the coffers.

BM Lily White?

Just guessing since I've never looked for a cool/blue color to use for myself! I'll look at my MK paint boards this afternoon when I get back from a drs appointment.

Thanks! That's what I was thinking about the gray component. Thought I would ask just in case.

I need Sherwin Williams paint. At least I will unless what I am reading is true about the base paint at Sherwin Williams now being scarce. If so, I will have to start all over with paint colors. 🤔 We do not have a BM.

I'm not a color expert, but will share what I've used while you wait for one to offer suggestions. Keep in mind that the light in your area may differ from the light, or perception of light, in ours.

One archived color that I used in a similar situation is SW's Glass Bead, 6805, with an LRV of 77 vs. 76 for Iceberg. It's not shown in the current fan deck but is still available if you ask at a SW store. An even lighter blue that I also like is SW Twinkle, 7135. Its LRV = 81. Twinkle may suit you better.

Thanks so much! And I will correct the LRV that I listed above.

I will look into both of the colors. I'd love to see a photo of what you used, if you have one to share.

Nice! At least on my monitor, Twinkle has more blue than Glass Bead. (Fwiw)

Here are some that I found in my MK paint boards under "Blue". Didn't cross check LRV values.

2131-70 Gray Sky

2122-50 Ice Berg

1632 Glass Slipper

6189 Opaline (blue-green)

7666 Fleur de Sel (blue/green gray)

salonva - I see that, also. Twinkle may have also been dropped from the SW palette. I'll have to check.

Went to SW and I was correct that they have discontinued Twinkle. They do have the formula, but not the sample chips. I did find a few alternatives.

On the left is SW Hinting Blue that I used on the screened Porch ceiling. Too dark!

On the right is SW Iceberg. Leans green and a little too dark for ceiling, IMO.

The other colors from left to right are:

SW Blue Horizon - I think it too baby blue.

SW Glimmer - A tad more gray

SW Snowdrop - Leans purple

SW SW Sky High - Might just be the one!

These were photographed this morning on a rainy day.

Seen in opposite direction and later in the day, with clouds.

Thoughts?

@nhb22, I am liking that Sky High! A fitting name for your use too. 😁

BM decorator's white looks light blue in my house, LRV 84. You can order paper samples of BM colors and have SW do an actual color match...they have their machine read the sample which in my opinion has been a better than using their "match formula". This is why SW has BM colors on painted swatches and they match the most used whites. I have recently bought a ton of SW paint (for our addition) and the lighter bases are available (Cashmere), deep bases are very hard to come by. Emerald anything isn't really available.

lucky998877 - I thought about using SW Extra White because it leans blue like BM Decorators White. Believe me when I say that I have all the Samplize samples!!! 😁 I cannot tell you how much I have spent on them. I will take my BM Decorators and SW Extra White samples over to the house and stick them on the ceiling to see if either will work. Thanks for the idea!

My Sherwin Williams guy confirmed that they are having a hard time getting any base coats. My painter confirmed and is talking with his SW rep about it.

Emily - Sky High is certainly in the first place running!

lucky998877 - I tried it and didn't like it. BM Decorators leaned gray on the ceiling. My builder, DH, and I all thought the SW Sky High will work nicely. It will be less intense in larger amounts as we have found the Samples to be darker than paint actually is once painted on the wall. The painter wasn't at the house, but he appears to be color blind, anyway. 😁

Thank you for all the suggestions and help!

That's why you always have to sample :) paint is so light and surrounding specific! Good luck!

Did you end up using Sky High? If so, do you like it or have any photos? We used Atmospheric on our porch ceilings when we last painted and it has a pretty tone, but it is definitely much more intense than I wanted, so I thought going up on the color chart might meet my needs. The trim it will be next to is Greek Villa.

@nhb22 we would love to see pictures of your painted coffered ceiling! How does the Sky High look?