Sold wrong peaches from a local farm market
catherinet (5IN)
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Starting a small local farm as a career?
Comments (35)I think my question is pretty clear: You have offered your place for sale to some potential farmer. You have not named a price, said how many acres, soil type, water resources, etc. You have said a rental income of 32k justifies buying your place and trying to make a living farming it. There is no way to know that without knowing at least the answers to the questions above. In most parts of the eastern US the market value of land makes trying to "make a living" by selling farm produce is an impossibility. It's all fine if one bought the place years ago when it was much less valuable in relative terms, and/or paid off the mortgage if there was one by doing some occupation much more remunerative than farming, or most workable of all, inherited the land. Buying land these days, most places, to live by farming is not feasible. The result will be a big loss of time/labor and any money invested....See More1st market of the year this Friday and not much to take to market
Comments (13)Sometimes I wish I grew flowers instead of veggies. Hanging baskets sell really well this weekend, bedding plants I imagine all spring. But then I'd need to get a GH. Trying to pot up tomaoes as quickly as I can into 3.5 - 4" pots and start hardening them off. I haven't even been out back, have lots of work to prep the beds (incl new beds in HT area, we'll put up the tunnel later - hoops ASAP and plastic later) but organic co-op has pickup day on the 16th, I met with board and they're letting me advertise in monthly newsletter, want me to bring plants on the 16th for members who may want to buy starts. Going to be warm here but I don't know if I'll have them hardened off by then, and not much root development in that short time. I may be restricted to Brandywine, Mark Twain, and Black Krim that I potted up 4/17-19 so nice big rootballs. It's finally getting warm enough that I can leave them in the garage at night - will set up tables/shelves and move those 3 out today. Problem with hardening off is that it's going to be raining for the next 3 days (counting today), 76 on Sunday, then T-storms for the 3 days after that, raining on the 16th as well. I might have to tell everyone the plants aren't hardened off yet, though I can get them used to cooler nights in the garage, won't be able to give them much sun and I'm afraid of heavy rain/wind this week....See MoreImports verses local market
Comments (12)Way back in the early 1940's when I was young the only produce we got that wasn't grown at home or from neighboring farms was an orange or tangerine in our Christmas stocking. I don't even know what was available then because we seldom went to town to shop. We lived off the land. Now, as you all know, grapes, watermelon, strawberries, citrus, tomatoes etc. are for sale all year around in the super market. Shipped in from all over the world and it's amazing to me how people will pay the high price for the stuff. Although "homegrown" is becoming to mean not much more than grown somewhere in the USA the biggest and best super market in my area does make a big effort to buy local produce, and even set up special displays in the stores with the names and pictures of the growers. Some of the growers will grow enough to supply several stores other small growers may bring their produce in to just one or two stores. They have asked me to grow herb plants and vegetables for them. Like most of you I am also a vendor at a farmers market. One of the biggest, oldest, busiest markets anywhere. There are 300 to 350 vendors and up to 35,000 customers on a Saturday. Many years ago it was started as a farmers market and farmers still get preference for stalls but now there is far more shipped in produce than locally grown. Many vendors are just hucksters. The market is open year round and many farmers have gotten into selling shipped in produce. I've been a vendor at that market for 29 years. Many customers have come to know who really sells locally grown produce and who doesn't. But most people don't seem to care. There are many real farmers markets. Almost every little town around here now has one in season. And they are good but very small. Great for hobby growers,and for those who have the trucks and people to set up at more than one market. I remember reading that there has been a 79% increase in the number of farmers markets in the last couple years. I hope it's more than a fad, and I hope more people will come to appreciate good fresh locally grown produce. I also have hope that people will get back to growing some of their own food. I was asked this spring to advise on the setup of a new farmers market for a small town and I said I was glad to help but I also suggested they look into getting some sort of community garden going where people can use a plot of land to actually grow something themselves. I'm very encouraged at the number of younger people interested in doing something like this. There are a number of books on this subject of imported food. My favorite is Eat Here, by Brian Halweil. Here is a link that might be useful: Eat Here...See MoreStarting a small local farm as a career?
Comments (13)Reading the OP, I feel like I wrote it. I live in a small municipality just outside a major metro area with a solid and growing local food market. I too have a job much like horticulture (urban forester) in that salary range. I'm a bit ahead of you in that I'm married with two great kids. We have been dreaming and scheming for years to get some more land and aspire to all the things you have mentioned. Land access is the #1 obstacle to getting started in Agriculture. You have to already have full access to acreage and infrastructure to make it a living. Currently, I have a 1 acre yard. Half of it is ravine and woods, the remaining half split between front yard, house, garage, and back yard skunkworks. That doesn't leave me with a lot of room to work. I have a 50x50 veg. plot and I just this past year put up a 12x32 pvc hoop house. My local municipality cried no joy on that, and I was fined, ordered to remove, appealed, and ultimately given a restrictive variance on it. No "farm" animals of any kind are permitted here, including chickens. I have some bee hives hiding in the way back I hope will not get spotted by the fuzz. I have managed to shoehorn in many fruit crops where I have the light. A friend of mine got me linked up with a well to do downtown restaurant and I have a niche market selling Heirloom tomatoes there. It's not going to bring me home from my day job, but it is financing all my other growing endeavors. Again, we aspire to more, but I wonder if we can afford the land. (we will definitely be looking OUTSIDE our current municipality) It's hard to look at the big farms around that are making it work with the pick your own and agritourism. In our area, we have several of them, but I also know it is the only way some of these family farms are going to make it. Urban sprawl has eaten up more land around here than you can imagine. Hugely rising land values in these areas make it almost impossible for farmers NOT to sell to developers. The most productive farmland in the world is being scraped off, built up, and sold to the McMansion set who then wonder why it's so hard to find local produce. The family farms have to justify holding out. Some are making it, a lot are not. I feel like I'm going on an old fart rant here (even though I'm not old)... Anyway, we are working towards it, starting small and dreaming big. If I have any advice for you, it would be to find a small niche market and focus on that. Rome wasn't built in a day, and you might get in over your head trying to do everything at once....See Morecatherinet (5IN)
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