Puzzled about Noisettes
bart bart
2 years ago
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Comments (9)cweathersby, don't feel alone! I have had the very same problem with the Tea Noisettes in particular for decades. They grow and bloom magnificently for a couple of years, and then go into "suspended animation," followed by slow die-back over several years. Tough guys like 'Gloire de Dijon' still try to come back, sending up new canes; but they die back in the second season. Heart-breaking!--and I've finally given up on them. Teas grow magnificently; and a current 'Desprez a Fleur Jaune', though hesitant in growth, hasn't shown the characteristic die-back. The roses showing the problem have come from many different sources over many different years. I don't know if the problem is something in the soil, or some disease which specifically harms them but which other my roses carry (and so gets passed on the to the Tea Noisettes). A few of my non Tea-Noisettes have also succumbed to this mysterious malady. Bah!...See MorePerplexed about Noisettes
Comments (36)It seems really strange that these particular roses all of a sudden died, while all your others are doing fine. I hope someone can get to the bottom of this. I would think they would have adapted to drought conditions the same as all your other roses. Besides, thirsty plants show thirsty plant symptoms for a while before dying, which usually isn't new growth before dying. Maybe there is a specific illness that struck just the noisettes, or an animal that likes those particular roots. Although tragic, I hope that is all the problem is. The other thought I have is that someone has done you harm by using a herbicide. I have run across the (rare) neighbor (usually the type that sit on their duff and watch T.V. all day) become very jealous of my yard and the fact that I am actually working in it. The comments they made were obnoxious. Fortunately, most people are nice. For 3 years I battled someone turning random drip irrigation tubes off in the hottest part of summer, as well as a couple of pvc irrigation pipes being chisled to the point of emptying our well out before I caught the problem. At the time the pipes were well hidden from the street because of all the large Knockouts I had. (Fortunately the well replenished itself quickly). The drip tube heads are the type that have to be twisted on or off. I checked with irrigation professionals to be sure that pressure changes couldn't cause that. They said no, that they had to be deliberately turned. Smashed sprinkler heads last summer too. I have lived here 11 years with no sprinkler head problems, and all of a sudden in a 6 week period 8 heads at a time were smashed. I live in a nice gated neighborhood. It is hard to think someone who lives here would do these things, but their are nut cases in all walks of life, including professional people. I had my suspicions about a "friend" who lives in here that I found out was extremely jealous of me. (No longer a friend, neeedless to say). Putting two and two together, the problems started after this "friend" moved here. I had no prior problems to this. I finally got the word out that we were going to put surveillance cameras up, and that I was going to prosecute whoever was doing this. Soon afterwards, the problems stopped. I hope it stays stopped. It is difficult for those of us who are kind to fathom that someone could become jealous in the first place, let alone act on it. Unfortunately it happens. Sandy...See MoreFavorite Noisettes and Tea-Noisettes
Comments (24)One thought, Ingrid -- In your heat, climbing roses, up against a wall, may have real problems. When we grew climbers against our south-facing retaining wall, we lost rose after rose to scorched canes. One level down, we had the same problem against a smaller wall. I suspect this could be part of the problem for your 'Mutabilis.' The bush has a sort of open, lacy quality, with a fair amount of bare cane. If it's being stressed in that manner, that may be the reason for the mildew problem you're having -- with a generally mildew-free cultivar. After trying various "fixes," we finally achieved success by putting latticework panels against the block wall, AND planting only roses that were very bushy and well-covered with leaves. The successes, finally, have been un-pruned bushes of 'Tina Marie,' which are now an upright 9-ft. or so in height, along with a "Roseville Noisette" and an 'Archduke Charles'. ALL of them with latticework panels behind them. On the lower level, 'Louis Philippe' has been a screaming success where at least 4 other roses died. In extreme Santa Ana conditions, some blooms burn, but he quickly pumps out new ones, and his bountiful foliage protects his canes. If this problem exists in our far cooler and more humid climate, I suspect it could be part of your problem. Jeri...See MoreInfo about King Plot Noisette at Sac. Cemetery
Comments (3)Just received this info from Anita Clevenger (cemeteryrose): It's a typical old-style noisette - we've had it five or six years, and it's about four by four in size - think it could build to twice as big given enough time and heat, but it your climate it might stay about this size. It blooms constantly, is basically white, and fragrant like all noisettes. Diane...See MoreLynn-in-TX-Z8b- Austin Area/Hill Country
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