I just logged in to this forum looking for information on hte EpicZ. I have space limitations as well and had been set on the LG stacking with dryer controls on the bottom of the dryer. Last week when I went to place my appliance order, I learned that LG has discontinued this model. They had only 2 dryers left and both were electric. Since I am set on gas I decided to consider my other choice the, Frigidare gallery. The gallery is an OK machine and I had one in our last house. Today the appliance SP emailed me about the EpicZ, saying that it is shorter and less deep than most others so I am hoping that this may be a good alterntive.

tinatark said: You can't set a specialty wash to start later. - and - About the dryer, I think the reverse-tumble system should have a time out feature - I've left the house with stuff drying on the wrinkle free cycle - not realizing it - come home hours later and it was still tumbling! The washer's menu doesn't allow scrolling to a Lifecycle, pressing Select, then scrolling the menu back to the Delay Start option? You mean the Wrinkle Free function, not reverse tumble. Reverse tumble occurs every 4.5 minutes throughout the drying cycle, and is not directly related to the Wrinkle Free option. The Wrinkle Free function does time-out after approx 24 hrs. You do understand what the Wrinkle Free option is for, yes? It comes into play at the end of the drying cycle, when the machine would otherwise be done and shut off. If the Wrinkle Free option is enabled, the clothes will be tumbled without heat for about 30 seconds every five minutes to prevent wrinkles that would otherwise occur if the dry clothes were left crumpled and stationary in the drum for an extended period. The end-of-cycle signal beeps after each tumble, reminding the user that the load is actually done and ready to come out. Since you're out of the house and unable to unload, Wrinkle Free is doing exactly what it's supposed to do -- tumbling the clothes periodically until you return so they don't get wrinkled. Most dryers with this feature have it run a maximum of 40 mins to 2.5 hrs, depending on the brand and model. Running it for 24 hrs is one of F&P's unique features for clothes care and convenience of the user. Wrinkle Free is enabled by default on several cycles (Easy Iron, Delicate, Sheets, Shirts), but can be turned off before Starting .. or added to any cycle that doesn't include it by default.

With all the opinions, assumed problems, brands, types, and style of washing machines these days, its important to get a perspective of what exactly is being compared. With strict government energy guidelines, manufacturers are forced to comply and reengineer products to meet that criteria. The difficult task is manufacturing a product that still cleans, uses much less water, and promoting it in such a way it still sells. None of this information is new but it goes a long way into understanding what is being compared. Their are distinct categories of washing machines each with specific positives and negatives. Traditional Front Load Washer-Excellent cleaning, Uses plenty of water for effective cleaning , Average Cycle times, Gentle on Clothes, and finished load quality is better and softer. The later is directly related to having sufficient immersion of the load in plenty of water. Water temperatures are not locked down or lowered to meet current standards. Average life span is 10 years or more. HE Front Load Washer-Very Good cleaning, Substandard amount of water used, Long Cycle times, Harder on clothing because of the lack of water and friction of the garments creates lint and pilling issues in some instances. Finish load quality is harsh. (Scratchy towel syndrome) Clothes tend to wear out quicker. Dumbed Down water temps. (Hot is the new warm, warm is cool, and cool is cold) None of the new HE machines that I know of offer a 100% tap Hot fill. Average life span 7 - 10 years. Traditional Top Load Agitator Style-Excellent cleaning. Ridiculous amount of water usage. Short cycle times. Gentler on clothing than HE Top Loader and HE Front Loaders. Excellent lint and pet hair redisposition than all other types of machines. All other machines lack a recirculation water pump and lint filter. Temperatures not dumbed down and limited to Hot water supply temperature. Average life span 15-25 years. HE Top Loader-Below average cleaning. Moderate Cycle times. Tangles and knots clothing. Average amount of water usage but not enough for a vertical axis machine to properly clean. Dumbed Down water temps. Average life span 5-7 years. Build quality in all the new HE machines is virtually identical, neither here nor there. With the exception of Miele and Speed Queen which by far is superior. Unfortunately Speed Queen failed to keep pace with the technology and marketing over the years and are really not in pace with the competition. They are not available in mainstream big box or other retail but through a dealer only arrangement. If it wasn't for their share in coin-op commercial they most likely would have been bought out long ago. They were not mainstream in the 70's, 80's, and later years when top loaders were all the rage, while Kenmore, Whirlpool, Maytag, GE emerged as the market leaders. Today Samsung, LG have gobbled the market share with Whirlpool and it's acquired sub brands now trying to keep pace. Miele just isn't an option in the U.S. and didn't compete very well when introduced to this market years ago. Lack of service, capacity, and features. They too were dwarfed by the Korean competition. So there's a lot to consider when deciding if you like or dislike your current machine. I liked all my machines, commercial, very old double Dexter wringer, old style top loader, conventional front loader, and yes there are even things I like about my HE front loader. I would like it a lot better if government would QUIT placing ridiculous regulations on laundry equipment. When you have to use a work around to get the appliance to do what it was meant to do, we are moving backwards!

I have to agree with whoever told you they don't supply w/d to tenants anymore. I've been a homeowner for a long time, but I used to be tenant in various apts. None of which supplied a w/d in each apt. My daughter who has been a tenant in two separate buildings, also, no w/d in the apts. I have noticed the trend in recent years for landlord supplied w/d in rental units and while it's attractive to a tenant, it can only lead to high costs and frustration for a landlord. If I was to own rental property, I would not, under any circumstances offer a w/d in the rental unit. To the point that if I bought a rental property and it came with w/d hook-ups, I would seal them off and build a cabinet in front of the hook-ups. No exceptions. I've owned enough washers and dryers in my lifetime to know that even with my own very good laundry and loading habits, bad things happen, and sometimes it's catastrophic. Tenants for the most part are not going to take as good care of any appliance in their unit as they would if they owned said machines. I understand your frustration though...you have existing tenants who have rented a unit with w/d hook ups and provided machines, therefore you pretty much have to keep things status quo. You might want to think about the time when these tenants vacate and perhaps remove your laundry machines and seal up the hook-ups since this is going to a repeat problem no matter who your tenant is. Call me Scrooge, but I'm ok with that. It's costly enough to keep up with maintenance and purely cosmetic improvements on a rental unit, insurance, property taxes, etc...add in appliances and it's hard to make ends meet on paper and bank balances. In fact, back in my renting days I never even had a dishwasher supplied. Neither has my daughter. Just something to think about.