What are your rose plans for 2021?
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Comments (24)Okay, so it is the next season after this thread. Not sure who might even still have an interest in this. I guess I feel I am trialing roses for disease resistance and growing organically and thought my experiences might be useful to anyone trying to do the same. What has happened since then. I cut back Julia Child just about to the ground in August last year. It came back from the ground and was about a foot tall before the first frost. Over the winter that new growth died back to the base of the canes. Some new canes came up from the ground and some new growth started on the bottom of the old canes. I did my usual compost/alfalfa meal in late April?, and fish emulsion/seaweed a few times. I had excellent healthy growth and I let it develop the way it wanted to. I tried to fix the problem I felt I created the season before, by cutting down any plants that were near the rose, so it gets a lot more air circulation. Last season I had a lot of cleome reseeding and allowed it to grow right up around the rose. A big mistake. It is only July now, but we have had two long heat waves already and it's been very humid this season, but Julia Child looks very good, just small. Here is a series of photos..... Julia Child April 27th, 21 - low to the ground but healthy growth. By May 25th, lots of healthy growth and flower buds showing. I didn't really prune any of the interior new growth. Still wondering if I should have because it has a lot of interior growth. Julia Child June 7th - first flush of bloom, looking nice iwth plenty of buds, healthy foliage. Julia Child on the 7th of July - Still has completely healthy foliage and is pushing out new buds for a 2nd flush, despite not doing my usual 2nd dose of compost and alfalfa meal. And that's the story with Julia Child. Have no idea why it struggled so much last year. I didn't use the Epsom salts because I chose instead to cut it down to the ground and not look at the ugly foliage any more. I was prepared to lose it and replace it with the same. Happy that I didn't have to. What is different this year than last, that it's had such a healthy year? No idea. I have two questions, was it better not to have applied a second round of compost/alfalfa meal? Should I have pruned some of the center growth when it first started producing so much new growth? It's been a good year for roses here. I have only had foliage problems on one out of eight roses and that was Pope John Paul. I shovel pruned it as soon as I realized it had blackspot. I could have done what I did to Julia Child last year and cut it back to the ground and let it regrow with healthy foliage, but I decided I was unhappy with the rose for other reasons and that was just the last straw. My biggest complaint is that the petals on the rose, deteriorate as it is opening, so it's hard to get a healthy clean looking bloom. I decided I wanted to try another white rose, maybe next year. I was initially over enthused about the rose, but that problem with the petals just really changed my mind. Savannah, has been healthy healthy looking. Pushed up new canes, is very bushy. Had a good flush of blooms 1st time around but is slow to put on new buds. My only concern is again whether it is too bushy and I should have pruned more of it off. I did prune it initially and it started with only 3 canes but it added more and is branching off those too. So, I'm just letting it do it's thing. I skipped the 2nd round of compost and alfalfa meal on all the roses this year. I think I did that, because they had a little bit of a rough time last year, and some had a rough winter, and I wanted them to just go at their own pace. Savannah June 4th 21 Savannah June 27th...first flush was done and the foliage still was clean but it's so bushy. It seems to me that is the way it grows and doesn't seem right to try to open it up in the center for air circulation. Especially since the foliage has been so clean. I have another thread floating around which I had a hard time finding, but I did think that Beverly was dead, and with encouragement from everyone here, I watied and it came back great in short order. It has also had a good season with healthy growth. It bloomed with about 5 blossoms first flush and right now it has one open bloom on it that is smaller and a few new buds just forming. Here is a current photo of Beverly, after thinking it was dead back in May...completely healthy foliage. I also have Prairie Sunrise, which I had an early season thread about - New Dawn, which had it's best year since I've had it - Aloha, which I enjoy and is very healthy but it's not in full sun and it is a very stingy producer. Penelope that keeps coming back even though I've cut it to the ground multiple times. [g] And that's about it. I would say based on my experiences with these roses, Julia Child I have had the longest and I feel is the most reliably healthy and productive. And I love New Dawn and hope to place it in a better location where it can really perform the way it was meant to. I love that old rose fragrance. I'm enjoying all the rest. I'm not sad to be looking for a new white. And I could lose Penelope and not be sad at all. But the current collection I have, minus Pope John Paul,seem to be a very healthy bunch for someone like me who grows organically with no spraying or insecticides at all....See MoreNew Roses for 2021?
Comments (8)Hi Ratdog, I'm a Hardy fan, too. Gabriel Oak is my favorite because of its color. Edmunds still can't ship to Idaho, and I don't like that. I'm most impressed with Delbard and Massad roses of the last 10 or so years. I love what I've seen of Francis Blaise and Paul Bocuse, among others. I don't do any checking because I don't know if I'll have room for a single new rose (I'll have to remove some roses which doesn't thrill me). Good luck to all of you in your rose hunt. Carol, does Wildwood have a website? I guess I could make the effort to check. Diane...See MoreHigh Country Roses has 'new for 2021' roses!!!
Comments (8)Joey, If there are more new roses for 2021 coming, and in the numbers are proportionate to the roses beginning with the letter "S", a much used letter, High Country Roses will be off the charts with new offerings. I suspect the "S" phenomenon is a one in a million chance coincidence. Moses...See MoreHi, Rose Friends, What 2021/2022 Roses Did You Order? UPDATES…
Comments (110)FRIENDS…. My Updated spring 2022 New Roses list: @strawchicago z5 @Kelly Tregaskis Collova Straw, Thank you for your tips on Louis Odier, Rohen, & Princess Charlene de Monaco. I had L Odier in Oregon-beautiful! I now have P Charlene de Monaco & she’s 2 1/2 ft w/buds in her 2nd start of year-I love her-she was a great bloomer & very fragrant last year all the time!!!! Kelly, Straw’s roses are great roses!!! Love them! The OGR s Staw mentioned & my La Reine and Mme Dubost are excellent OGR bloomers & so fragrant! I am really in love w/these old garden roses!!! My garden new OGRs 2022 NEWBIES: : My Madame Dubost, Very fragrant! La Reine, Very fragrant! And I ordered about 32 roses for this spring 2022… A few newbies from those orders I planted include: 1. Reminiscent Pink 2. Reminiscent Cream 3. Amazing Grace 4., Queen of Elegance 5. Dark Desire 6. 2 Rosarie de Chantelet from Palatine-great canes! 7. Rosemantic Fushia from Palatine! 8. 2 Morden Blushes 9. Lady of Guadelupe 10. Plum Perfect 11. Cream Veranda 12.,Eglantyne 13. 2 pink minis 14. Julia Childs 15. Sexy Rexy 16. Madame Caroline Testouts (From Pirtland, OR) 17. Pearly Gates CL 18. Ardoisee de Lyon 19. Bolero 20. Summers Romance 21. Madame Isaac Perierre CL 22. Jacque Cartier 23. Awakening CL 24. Vicomtesse Decaux (cross between Kordes & Winchester Cathedral-a very light pink.) 25. Wedding Bells 26. Orchid Romance 27. Cupid’s Kiss 28. Reine des Violettes 29. 2 more pink minis (died) My favorites are the OGRs right now. Reine des Violets just bloomed in my garden…fragrant! Vicomtesse Decaux, Antique Rose Emoorium photo)…. just planting it tomorrow…. Ardoisee de Lyon (Heirloom Roses photo) shipped on June 13…. Madame Isaac Perierre (Delivered tomorrow hope!!!) Heirloom Roses photo…. but bought from A Reverence for Roses… Jacque Cartier, Heirloom Roses photo, shipped June 13….(bought for free w/ sale-free shipping & voucher!!!) HEIRLOOM ROSES SALE CONTINUES…. Many roses $30, plus free ship/no tax!!!...See Moresubk3
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