Oooh....will watch tonight. During the holidays I watched a lot of makeup and skin care videos——the array of products is dizzying. Thanks!

I watched it and don't buy any of the products she says aren't needed. I appreciate knowing what is effective and what's a gimmick. Actually, my skin care routine has whittled down into a very minimal one -- cleanser and moisturizer. I don't make the time for anything else, but don't feel I'm missing out.

To save someone 20 minutes of listening, this is the list:

eye creams, rose water, toners, fad ingredients (charcoal, turmeric, etc.), water wipes, scrubs, lash serums, facial oils (cleansing oils OK), sheet masks, "feminine"
washes.

Thanks, gray wings! After about 6 minutes I couldn’t listen to her voice any more. And I was distracted by the wreaths (?) on the wall LOL.

I am a sucker for eye creams, always looking for the magical elusive one...guess I can quit that search.

Thanks graywings - I don't use it all the time but I do like the feeling of Witch Hazel as a toner - makes my skin feel fresh and it doesn't feel drying at all. It may not be necessary but especially during the summer when I can feel especially grimy from working in the garden or walking/perspiring outside, it's a nice touch. I know people who swear by the lash serums - does she say they don't work?

Thanks gray wings. Too long for me. That is just one opinion. I do agree there is a lot of gimmicks out there to sell stuff. But there’s good stuff too, stuff that works. Cleanser and moisturizer are, of course, a must for everyone. But this time of year, my facial oil is wonderful and my skin looks better too. I use a different cream at night than my daily moisturizer. I also use sunscreen!

FF is easy to get to the next topic. I liked that she took the time to explain the reasons behind her opinions and they were all scientific.

I did figure out on my own that it's okay to use face serums around my eyes and I also use them on my hands.

DLM, I think she was talking about the old school toners with alcohol and it dried the heck out of our faces. I use Dickinson's Enhanced Witch Hazel with H. Acid. alcohol free.

OC, I also found a simple skin routine and it's so nice. The only thing is I need to wait a few minutes before applying the next in line so they can all absorb.

Clean face & do this on top of your hands at the same time. In order,

Enhanced Witch Hazel

Retinol cream

Neutrogena Hydro boost Gel

Last but not least, the old fashioned Oil of Olay in the pretty pink bottle.

The next morning my skin feels better than it ever has.

IIRC and I did a lot of fast forwarding she said facial oils are potentiallay problematic and so she just uses a moisturizer. She was less 'against' the facial oils than she was other things.

RE the toners, she made a point of saying the 'no' is to traditional Western alcohol based toners, she also said that she isnt anti- essences but that the industry is a bit willy-nilly about labeling toners v. essence. FWIW Dickensons Witch Hazel Toner is alcohol free and I happen to love the essence I use. I actually went further into the "Dr Dray world" to listen to her podcast on toners v essences. (What can I say I was bored on the treadmill this morning....) Anyway she agreed essences can be useful as a treatment after cleansing and before serums as they can enhance the effect of the serum, which is what I had always heard. She stressed though that you must use moisturizer after.

Thanks for the interesting link Oakley!

And don’t forget your neck!!

Joanie, I'm glad she addressed problems with lash serum. I used it then got lazy and stopped. A few months later it felt like something was in my eye and it was miserable. I kept looking and couldn't find anything. I looked again and I'll be darned, some of my top lashes grew downward and they were rubbing my eyeball!

I had to curl my eyelashes just so I could see. They grow normal now but I know it was the serum.

Local, this is the first I've heard of essence. I know Rose water is good for the skin, is that an essence because it's in the D. witch hazel I use.

Oakley, an essence could have rose in it, but it’s actually a formulation that opens up the skin to receiving other treatments. So, if you want to use a vitamin c serum, for example, if you use an essence first the theory is that the essence allows more of the serum to works. I just like the way my skin looks and feels when I use it. I use May Coop Raw Sauce. One bottle lasts me a long time.

Ummmm ... alrighty then.

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