If you want the French door but feel like you’d need a second oven, I highly recommend the Wolf Gourmet countertop convection oven. I use mine almost exclusively—and I have two full-sized ovens!

Wolf Gourmet countertop oven

If you’re interested in it, message me on where to buy it at a better price.

Breville makes them for wolf... We have the Breville countertop oven and I agree with the above poster... we use that more than our regular over. It gets used hard and it works amazingly well.

Oh, and those french door wall overs are super sexy!

I have the Cafe double wall oven with the French Door on top and a regular door on the bottom and love it. I have had it for about 3 years now with no regrets. I do bake a lot so they get heavy usage.

Just curious what the advantage is in having a french door vs. conventional door? I'm building a house this year as well and looking for ideas.

I’d look into getting the oven on “The Great British Baking Show”. Whatever the brand—it looks great and the door slides in and out of the way

Just found out it’s a NEFF

@helenwheelsies1444 It's a no-go in the US, doubtful that's changed. https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5554588/looking-to-import-a-neff-slide-hide-oven-to-the-u-s-help

OP: Do you just think the French door ovens are sexy or is there a practical reason for you? Have you looked at the side open Bosch ovens?

There’s always a range, with oven elsewhere. Best of both worlds.

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@Amy Brookshire I watched a few YouTube videos and this one shows how they work:

They barely show it in the video, but the doors are linked internally, so you only have to grab one door and both the doors open together. (From my research, it appears that pretty much every brand does this, but I'm pretty new to this topic.)

In addition to those nice features, the biggest benefit to me is that I don't have to reach my arms way out over a hot oven door while sliding something heavy into the oven. It just seems like for a wall oven, this would be so much easier to use. I have of course never had one, but it looks like it would be so pleasant!

@boschboy I'm glad to hear that feedback! If you had to choose between a single French door oven or double regular-door ovens, which would you pick?

@Sammy I didn't know that was a thing! That's definitely good to know about and might make me feel more comfortable going the single-French-door route. Thanks! I may message you in the future about this. :)

Having 2 ovens is most important for me, I quite often use both at once.

@boschboy This may seem like a dumb question, but what are you cooking so often that requires two ovens at the same time? When I imagine myself having two ovens, I think of cooking a turkey and then making side dishes or putting a Yorkshire pudding into the other oven so it comes out when dinner is about to begin. But I've never had two ovens, and maybe there are things I could/would do if I had two that haven't occurred to me!

I too use my Breville more often than my double ovens. However, once I remake my kitchen, I really don’t want anything to be sitting on the counter. How should I incorporate my Breville? Or, when I get a better functioning double oven (perhaps with a sexy French door), perhaps I will not need/use the Breville so much? It’s just such a nice size when it is just DH and I…

Not a dumb question at all. Tonight’s dinner is a good example. I will broil Char Siu in my top oven while I roast broccoli in the lower.

Most weekends I use one oven as a proofing oven with the proof setting for breads and then bake in the second.

Another is when I warm my dinner plates in the Warm setting while dinner is roasting.

Two ovens will open many possibilities for you.

@wiscokid I love the idea of not having to reach over the hot oven door, mostly. I think side-opening would be just fine also, but our builder only offers a small number of appliance options, and I don't think there's a side-open oven there. (I know they don't have any Bosch - almost entirely GE/Profile/Monogram.) I know it's possible for us to just get the cheapest thing, sell it, and replace it with exactly what we want, but I also know that we are just going to be unlikely to invest the effort in doing that. Between building, moving, parenting, and both me and my husband working, I think realistically that we just won't be able to prioritize doing that for a long time. So I'm trying to make the best choice from what they do offer.

Makes sense - I like that idea too; I'm short and it's a pain trying to get in over the horizontal door for cleaning. I'm thinking of the Bosch ones at some point, since they're less than the french door ovens. If that's not an option from your builder, then you gotta go with what you can get. I would also opt for one with a dial, if that's a choice. I have a GE profile range now, which I love, but I find the touchpad for the oven isn't the greatest, compared to other brands.

I concur with boschboy! I have Thermador double wall ovens and have used both ovens for many years. The advantage of a French door (for a top oven) is in insering/removing very heavy (cast iron Le Creuset 9.5 quart) cookware from the upper oven's middle shelf. Those who are shorter will appreciate being able to get closer to the upper racks when inserting/removing items rather than stretching across the open oven door. I use my double wall ovens to bake six pans of cookies/pastries/pies simultaneously, or to make a large roast in one and many side dishes/desserts in the second wall oven. I bake breads, frequently, and in addition to the double wall ovens, regularly use the warming drawer to proof breads/keep plated meals at the correct temperature, etc. I have experienced back problems and would never have a range, requiring me to bend that far when baking/cooking. I also prefer have electric wall ovens and my gas cooktop.

@wiscokid Oh, interesting, I hadn't even thought about the dial. I'll keep that in mind! Though it looks like the Cafe one (which is the only French-door option they offer) does indeed have a dial, so hooray for that. Thanks for the suggestion! And I'll keep that in mind for my cooktop, because I think 100% of their cooktop options are GE/Profile/Monogram. (Though that may mean that a dial isn't an option.)

French door or hinged door are much easier to get things in and out of.

If they have a relationship with Cafe / Monogram, why isn't the double-oven with French door top an option? It would be worth asking if they can do it.

Cafe version

Mongram version

@Ryan B I'm definitely going to ask! We have to make the decision at a meeting in a week or two, but annoyingly I'm not able to find out the details until that meeting happens. I just have the list of options and nobody to ask until then, so I'm trying to form a plan so I can make the best decision. when the meeting happens. I get the feeling that they're not very flexible about things outside their set of options, so I'm not optimistic since it's not listed on the paper they gave me.

@doc5md Could you share the model # or style of the Breville oven you have?

One thing to consider: I was wanting to replace my existing double wall oven with the Bosch French door on the top model. When I looked closely at the install instructions I noticed that my 30" cabinet opening would not accommodate the French door opening! Glad I checked before I bought.