Oh my gosh, I really need to get on the list for Annie Laurie McDowell! A while back I tried to grow a budded "maiden" one and it failed (obviously I did something wrong -- so sad!). Have you seen Kim's "Lynnie"? That one is also on my list of roses I'd like to grow.

Of the Barden roses I think Marianne is special --- gorgeous blooms with that amazing Gallica geometry and often with a modern peachy color at the heart that is soft, like watercolor. For a year I've also grown "Treasure Trail" in a pot, and it is so darned charming that I can't believe it is so rare. I love the cute little salmony blooms with their button eyes!

Here are some pics of a bloom from Marianne in two different stages of maturity (same bloom). I can't find a picture of Treasure Trail, unfortunately. But I love it.

You are missing Tom Carruth. Among my favorite roses are his purples and lavender roses, Twilight Zone, Ebb Tide, and Love Song. I also am a huge fan of Julia Child. I've grown some of these since 2006, and have multiples of each, and they have never let me down. I've grown other roses of his that I haven't cared for as much such as Blueberry Hill and Memorial Day (I like Frederic Mistral a lot better). I prefer the bloom structure of many David Austins and French roses, but I make exception for Tom Carruth's roses. Diane

@K S 7b Little Rock (formerly of Seattle), Marianne is gorgeous! Thank you for showing two stages of her bloom. I think she is once blooming rose, right? Do you think she would bloom in the warmer climate? I heard that some Gallia does not bloom at all in the warmer zone.

@slumgullion in southern OR Burlington listed Lynnie, Little Butterfly and Too Cute on her 2020 availability list. You may email her to see if they are still in stock. This is a 5' tall Too Cute in Santa Rosa at a friend's home there.

Little Butterfly in masses of bloom at Jimofshermanoaks garden years ago.

If you want beautiful minis take a look at the late Frank Benardella's roses! He bred many gorgeous exhibition minis and minifloras.

Another great mini/miniflora breeder is Dave Bang. LOTS of unusual striped minis by him.

Yet another great mini/miniflora breeder is David Clemons. All of his great race horse series of roses are fabulous!

I guess you can tell I like minis, lol!

Not from your neck of the woods but a wonderful American breeder: Paul Jerabek https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=7.5944

There are also the Pioneer roses from Antique Rose Emporium.

You are also missing the late John Clements, former owner of Heirloom Roses. Heirloom Roses still carries many of his creations.

There was a recent thread here on "The Impressionist", that is one of his. I have grown a couple of Clements cultivars over the years, Joan Fontaine was a rose that I liked very much. I believe Roses Unlimited and RVR also sell some Clements cultivars.

Cheers, Rick

Not west coast breeders, but I've always admired the achievements of Dr. Van Fleet and Dr Basye.

Oh my goodness, I can see my wish list is going to grow by a lot!! I think I'll have to start planting roses among the fruit trees :-)

K S in Seattle - Lynnie, wow she looks outstanding. On the list she goes! And Marianne - that coloration looks so scrumptious I want to eat it - unusual on its own terms but then even moreso in a gallica! Treasure Trail was already on my wish list but your praise will bump it up a few notches.

Diane Brakefield - Thanks! Carruth, I've heard of him now that you mention his name. I do have a Julia Child which is wonderful. Normally I don't like roses in the mauve/violet/lavender range of colors but your pics are making me re-think that position. I'm going to have to find some space to include a few!

Roseseek - Thanks for the info and thanks for introducing these roses! Lynnie, Little Butterfly, Too Cute are going on the list! It's so useful having smaller-scale roses to tuck in amongst everything else. And I ADORE single roses so Little Butterfly is especially appealing.

Seil - Thanks for the mini recs! I'll definitely take a look at those breeders. I have a long border designated primarily for mini roses, and I only have a few filled in so far. Which ones in particular are your favorites?

Vaporvac - Thanks! I've never heard of Jerabek, but looking on HMF it seems he introduced quite a few roses. Do you have favorites?

Rideauroselad - Thanks! Yes, Clements, how could I forget him, and how is it that I have NONE of his roses yet? Especially when I've heard of lots of them! Never heard of The Impressionist though - I'll have to look up that thread - but looking on HMF, WOW!! Definitely going on the wish list!

ARGH, so much for limiting my acquisitions! I'll have to go see what everyone has in stock....

Chris209, Thanks for the input! I didn't know Van Fleet and Dr. Basye were American. I do have Sir Thomas Lipton and Basye's Purple. Are there others of theirs that you think are especially worthwhile?

I got the climber Paul Jerabek this year so can't comment yet, but it's supposed to be one of his best climbers and so pretty. Here is Peggy M:

Her colour changes depending on sunlight. Please click to see full View and details.

Frank bred many gorgeous roses, and I have no idea what would do well in your area, but I think my favorite of his is Focal Point.

There are really many, many American mini breeders. A couple more I came across in looking through my inventories were Dee Bennett, Jim Sproul, Harm Saville and Robbie Tucker to name a few more.

Lek, you are right, Marianne is a once blooming rose. I have no idea whether or not she would bloom in a warmer climate. My guess is that anywhere where other Gallicas struggle to bloom she would have a hard time. A very beautiful rose, in any case. :)

John Bagnasco in CA has also bred a small but Charming group of roses.

https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=7.10830

The Tooth Fairy. A single white with pink blush and fleeting fragrance. I would call it a bush form of Ballerina. Very Hardy.

Click for detail.

Andy Vanable has bred some lovely roses, my next door neighbor has Hera's Song and is really impressed with it.

Houzz keeps eating my posts. This is the fourth try. Ralph Moore wasn’t American, but Burling Leong is. She breeds (and carries) many rare and wonderful roses at her nursery in Visalia, CA.

Here is her Flamingo Dancer. Unusual for a climber, it took off in its first year. Now it’s over the wall.

Mr. Moore was born in Visalia, CA in 1907, where he lived his entire 102 year long life. He opened Sequoia Nursery in 1937 and closed it in 2008. Burling went to work for him there straight out of school around 1975 and worked there until it closed. She and Carolyn did EVERYTHING required to maintain and keep it going for many years. Much of what Burling knows, she obtained while working at Sequoia Nursery and the majority of the roses she offers originated from that stock. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_S._Moore

I stand corrected, and embarrassed! I had Moore mixed up with McGredy, Hey, they both begin with M ...

Of course Ralph Moore is one of the greats. His minis alone would make him immortal.

I'm sorry Sylvia. I didn't mean to embarrass you.

The joy of the rose world is you'll NEVER run out of beauties to covet...

Vaporvac, Peggy M looks delightful! Thanks! And as for Tooth Fairy - now I think I have to re-home Sea Foam to make room for him. Not that I don't like Sea Foam; but SF is available from a dozen vendors, and I'd much rather give that place to a great rose whose future is less secure.

Seil, Focal Point is beautiful. I really love salmon colored roses. And thanks for all the mini breeders! I foresee many enjoyable rainy afternoons this winter/spring, poring through their listings on HMF.

Joeywyoming, Hera's Song looks wonderful. So many blooms! I'm sure I can find a place for her.

Sylvia, Flamingo Dancer is DEFINITELY going on my list. There's a photo on HMF of her spilling down a hill: amazing! I had no idea Burling was a breeder as well as a rose nursery.

Hahaha I woke up this morning thinking my collection only had room for another dozen roses or so. I'll go to bed this evening trying to figure out where to shoehorn in the next dozen after that!!!

Thanks all for enabling me!

How about Belinda's Dream? It's well loved for its health and beauty. Wasn't hardy enough for me here or I'd still have it. Not one of his more unusual roses though.

Oregon breeders - I would have to include Ping Ling.

http://www.rosesbyping.com/what-is-news

Chris209 - Thanks! Belinda looks lovely and I see Mark Chamblee recommends her. Another good addition!

Henry Kuska - Thanks! Ping's roses look wonderful, especially the small size of many of them. I think I've heard of him before in connection with 40 Heroes....Which is now making me think of re-homing Radiant Perfume (which to my nose is not that perfumed, and is too tall and bare-legged) and replacing him with 40 Heroes. Calypso also really attracts my eye. Nice and small: this one will go in my "mini rose" hedge. Yay!

How Could I forget ping Lim!? His roses in a regional Garden are always the very best looking anytime of the year and always in flower as well. I'm nursing along a small Fiesta that was gifted to me and it is never without leaves to black spot. I don't know how it does with other diseases but I'm so impressed with this Rose and can't wait to see it bloom.

From an earlier generation, there is Fred Howard:

https://www.pacifichorticulture.org/articles/go-lovely-rose/

I have a number of roses bred by him, along with Amarcrinum howardii and an ivy geranium ('Carlos Uhden').

HU - Wow, never heard of Fred Howard, and I'm not sure I've ever heard of any of his roses. Thanks for the article about him! It looks like Burling has several of his introductions available. I'll have to find a place for at least one or two....and the inter-genus Amarcrinum cross, wow! I have a shipova tree (Pyrus x Sorbus cross), now I'll have to get the Amarcrinum. Botanical oddities!

I have 1 Ping Lim rose 'My Girl'. I picked it up from Lowe's at last year's end of season clearance. It had the most beautiful foliage all season. Never a blemish and very bushy. Bloomed a lot too. I wish the color was a little less like that of the common Knock Out, but the flowers are prettier and it works well in the spot it's in.

-Chris

I have a no ID rose from RVRs that might be "Fred Howard" hybridized by same.

It is the larger yellow blooms seen among Crepuscule and Souv du Dr. J.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Ping Lim's "Kashmir" is everything that Knock Out should have been, professed to be, and absolutely is not. Of all my modern roses, Kashmir is simply the most disease free, blooming-est, effortless rose in my garden. It has moderate size blooms of good form, though not classic HT. It's definitely a shrub, and vigorous, too. Hardy to Z4b (!?!?). It's also a true red (that doesn't fade), unlike that fluorescent cherry red of KO that clashes with just about everything but white, lol. The color is remarkably consistent, regardless of weather conditions. The blooms laugh off heat AND rain. The ONLY fault is that it has zero scent most days. But I have other roses to stick my nose in. For sheer flower power and ease of care, Kashmir is the hands down winner...at least among the moderns, lol. I have several antique/old roses that hold their own with Kashmir...and smell good, too! But we're talking about West Coast breeders...

Kashmir

Not one of the HMF photos really shows what K can do. I'll have to drag out my camera this coming summer.

Chris209, Sheila and fig_insanity - thanks so much! These roses do look great and I'm putting them on my list!

@fig_insanity Z7b E TN Kashmir looks very interesting. it seems the only sources so far is directly from Roses by Ping in Oregon for $72.50 for 5 bare roots plus tax and shipping and Amazon for $32.99 each. Oh, for the good old days when you could order from a NURSERY of find it IN a NURSERY.

@roseseek Kim, I actually bought my Kashmir at Home Depot, on clearance, three years ago this past summer. It drew me in by being the only one among the several (sad) varieties still there that was not only healthy, but SPOTLESS, and in full bloom and loaded with more buds! I couldn't understand why it hadn't already been snatched up. I decided it must have been due to the atrocious purple pot it was in, lol. Anyway, I regret not buying the other Ping Lim rose in the bunch, which was a yellow whose name escapes me right now. It was nearly in as good condition as K, but at the time only had a couple of faded blooms. I've kicked myself multiple times for not getting it. I haven't seen another of Ping's roses at HD since :( But if K is such a good performer HERE, I can't imagine what it would be like in California. It is unmatched in vigor, health and floriferousness by any other modern rose in my garden. And *you know* how picky I am, lol.

John

Edit: I should have the original tag somewhere. I'll see if the distributor/grower is listed.

Edit#2: just as an aside, I just checked Ping's roses, and "High Voltage" rings a bell. I'm pretty sure that was the yellow I passed up.

@fig_insanity Z7b E TN thanks but I don't need the grower. We never get them here because black spot isn't an issue in these parts. We get lots of those ugly things, I can't remember what the series is called, but they are the recent "really good stuff", Miranda Lambert is one, and they always look like crap here. Other than that, we get Drifts, Flower Carpets and the usual non patent, grade 5 pushed cull dreck left over from the rose harvest. Currently, it's Miranda Lambert and the awful budded stuff in the too small square plastic pots, grown in the US and potted in Canada. I mean, we get squat for roses here. The only "nursery" in town sells five gallon bud and bloom Iceberg for $50. The current reincarnation of the old Orchard Supply Company, now called Outdoor Supply, has potted Week's roses, which I'm not interested in.

@fig_insanity Z7b E TN OT but I'd love to hear about your figs sometime!!

This is an inspiring thread. I hope to get Flamingo Dancer next year and see how it does. Maybe even this year since most of Burling's roses are bands. @slumgullion in southern OR, I'm thrilled that you're considering Tooth Fairy as I always recommend her, but seem to be one of very few here that grow her. She is available from Burlington. I got her as a small band in 2016; she has slowly built up to a 4'-5' shrub, but could easily be kept smaller. She'll probably get a good haircut this spring. Zero die-back at -7F.I like her because she makes a pretty shrubby shape and gives and airy look to that area, besides which she is almost always in profuse bloom in a slightly shaded position.BS occurs very late in the season on the lower leaves, but is not so noticeable as her leaves are smaller.

I agree, it's a very inspiring thread! It seems The Year of Covid has been good for gardening - I hope the rose industry and especially all the niche breeders/growers/nurseries have benefited!

I'm happy to report to all that I've got the following all on order:

* The Impressionist

* Too Cute

* Tooth Fairy

* Flamingo Dancer

* Dakota Redwing

* Incantation

* Won Fang Yon

Burling and RVR were out of several of the others I was hoping for.

I've allocated a whole new section of the garden, behind the pear trees, for a row of mid-size/compact roses....

Luckily I still have some $ left on the stimulus card I got - time to head over to Ping's website and try to narrow down which of his beauties I have to have! Doing my patriotic duty!

Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions!!

Unless I missed it, no one has mentioned the last breeder for Jackson and Perkins, the breeder that followed warriner., Keith Zary. J&P has released many decent roses that he bred, such as Gemini, Veteran's Honor, and so many more.

Hi John, Thanks! Another suggestion I'll look into one day while it's raining!

Glad so glad to hear you are getting tooth fairy!