July 2020, Week 5....and Hello, August
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3 Weeks Earlier than Normal Bloom, what will be left in August?
Comments (35)This is a great thread and it is one I have been following earnestly since it began. Here is what is still blooming in my garden as of August 13, in no particular order: Lycoris chinensis Patrinia scabiosifolia Verbena bonariensis Echinacea 'PowWow Wild Berry' Calamintha nepetoides Allium 'Millenium' Allium 'Summer Beauty' Allium nutans 'Pam Harper' Agastache 'Blue Blazes' Agastache 'Blue Fortune' Agastache 'Golden Jubilee' Agastache 'Purple Haze' Hibiscus 'Summer Storm' Hibiscus 'Plum Crazy' Lilium speciosum album Lilium speciosum rubrum Phlox 'David' Phlox 'Old Cellarhole' Phlox 'Jeana' Phlox 'Caspian' Phlox 'Peppermint Twist' Phlox 'Mile High Pink' Helenium 'Mardi Gras' Geranium 'Rozanne' Geranium wlassovianum Rosa 'Quietness' Rosa 'Jude the Obscure' Rosa 'Rose de Rescht' Silphium perfoliatum Gladiolus 'Carolina Primrose' Gladiolus 'Bolivian Peach' Gladiolus 'Boone' Thalictrum 'Splendide' Thalictrum 'Hewitt's Double' Perovskia 'Blue Spires' Eupatorium 'Little Red' Nepeta 'Joanna Reed' Geranium 'A.T. Johnson' Knautia macedonica Solidago 'Little Lemon' Salvia 'Black and Blue' Geranium 'Blue Sunrise' Scabiosa ochroleuca Angelica gigas I have included plants in the above list whether they are in full bloom or have just a smattering of blossoms. We finally have pleasant temperatures and rain in my neck of the woods, and I think I can hear my garden sighing in relief. Here is a list of plants I have that still have not bloomed and/or are currently forming buds: Various sedums Helianthus 'Lemon Queen' Solidago 'Fireworks' Various asters Various Korean mums Aconitum 'Barker's Variety' Anemone 'Honorine Jobert' Artemisia lactiflora 'Guizhou' Various colchicums Various autumn crocus Helianthus 'First Light' Salvia azurea 'Nekan' Allium 'Sugar Melt' Allium tuberosum Allium thunbergii 'Ozawa' Allium thunbergii 'White Form' Scilla autumnalis Lycoris squamigera For the past couple of weeks, I have been putting in as many late blooming hardy chrysanthemums and asters as I can find and afford. Without a doubt, gardening will become more challenging in coming years due to climate change. Included below is a photo of the stunning Lycoris chinensis:...See MoreAugust 2017, Week 5.....And, Hello to September
Comments (74)It was hot on our deck this evening, too, Amy. It's nice now, tho, with a fan going. In fact, I'd been inside reading all evening and just now came out. Our dishwasher is a Frigidaire and it's also quiet. We only run it once every 3-4 days, so maybe it'll last a while! I wash pots and pans and put in the drainer, sometimes meal prep dishes, same. Truthfully, though, it's the one modern convenience I'd be okay without. In fact, in the last 33 years, I've only had a dishwasher 8 of those years. I'm not a great housekeeper--those gets plenty dirty, we just don't mess it up much; well, except my "art" room, so it is easy to figure out which one of us can be a mess. And it's not Garry. But I've been doing deep-cleaning sorts of things, and that feels good. And the art room looks awesome right now since my organizing binge. (Key words="right now.") My four o'clocks have rebounded, for the third time after being wacked back twice. Same with nicotiana; lantana have gotten pretty big; I hope these hardier ones will overwinter; we'll see. I have new zinnias beginning to bloom; and I wanted to plant some nasturtiums; I did last year about now, and they did awesome, unlike the ones planted in the spring. But I'll have to wait until we get back from Wyoming to put more beets, cilantro, dill and nasturtiums in. The new batch of potatoes we planted around Aug 1 are doing well; I hope we get more this fall. The peppers, all, while not going gangbusters, are steadily producing and looking good. I have a question(s) for you all. I know we talked about roselle, but can't find the thread. Can I grow it in part (hot in the summer) sun? And daturas? And brugmansias? Well, the daturas and the brug are actually part sun where they are, getting about 4 hours of full sun per day; they seem to be doing fine, so . . . . I was thinking about where I'd put them all next year, since it sounds like they're all BIG. :) (I know the daturas and brugs are!) And do the roselle re-seed? I'm thinking yes. It was hot today, but supposed to cool off by Wednesday. We haven't had rain since the first week of August, so I do hope for rain tomorrow. Still worried about south TX, and now Irma. . ....See MoreVeggie Tales - August 2020
Comments (292)Saturday in my haste to clean up the melon beds a bit of vines that had died, I separated the vine that contained a few nearing-ripe cantaloupe from the base plant. Grrr...so my cantaloupe season is over! Before I started, I did find one 'loupe that was pretty much ripe. I have 3 in the fridge now. When they're gone, that's it! I really had intended to pull the watermelon plants out. I had picked the last big watermelon late last week. While I was messing with the cantaloupe vines, I did uncover a watermelon that's about a week or so old. So, I guess I may have one more watermelon. The zucchini plants are in the trash this morning too. SVB finally did them in. The pattypans won't be far behind. Some of the pattypan vines are still looking fairly healthy, but this morning there were a few vines that were wilted. Since it's trash day, I went ahead and pulled those. The big excitement in my world now (other than a MUCH more important event of my son's wedding next weekend) is that we discovered an armadillo in our basement "day-light" window well. Grrrr To REALLY complicate our attempts to deal with this guy, as bad luck would have it, there's a deck build over the window well. The bottom of the deck trusses/stringers/whatever is just barely the height that a small man can crawl underneath to get to the edge of the window well. Both Saturday and Sunday we set a live-trap. The trap is not nearly big enough, but it's all we had. He's been there since at least Thursday evening. That's when we first heard it. This morning I finally connected with someone who will come and rid our property of this creature. I was sorry to hear that the guy said that he'll have to access the pit from inside the house, through the window that's there. I really was hoping that he'd be able to do it from the top of the well/pit. He said, 'you can't work an armadillo from above". Yuck. That means that this creature will have to come through my house at some point. Ewww. I just want it gone. I made another batch of marinara sauce yesterday. I have about 20 jars on hand now. That ought to get us through the winter! It's been a disappointing tomato season for me this year. Tried several new varieties this year and they just haven't done well here. I did finally pick the first really big Wes tomato on Saturday. It was pretty gnarly looking, but weighed in at 18 ounces. There are 3 or 4 more on that plant that are coming along, but there have been none on the Wes plant that is in the cage right next to this one. I have 2 Wessel's Purple Pride plants and, although, the plants are huge, I've only gotten about 5 tomatoes off of them combined. Now is seems all the tomatoes on those plants have blossom end rot. A Neve's Azorean Red plant in the garden hasn't had any fruit on it, but I have another that I put elsewhere and it finally has quite a few about golf ball sized tomatoes....See MoreAugust 2020, Week 1
Comments (60)I haven't read this in days and am trying to catch up, so I'm going to go backwards. If you are making a Cowboy Candy that is not made from an actual, safety-tested, safety-verified recipe with carefully measured quantities, be careful. What you're making if you throw stuff in a jar and put it in the fridge is the equivalent of refrigerator pickles, and most refrigerator pickles (other than those made following fermented pickle recipes) fell from favor years ago because the CDC discovered listeria would grow in refrigerator pickles after only a few days in the fridge. The latest recommendations I've seen for refrigerator pickle type products is that you should consume them within 3 days if you are in a high-risk group for listeria (which includes anyone aged 50 or over) or otherwise consume them within one week. The kind of candied jalapenos that became extremely popular on Garden Web about 10 or 12 years ago on the harvest forum are made using a standard sweet pickle (bread and butter) canning recipe (even the Mrs. Wage's mixes will work), and substituting jalapeno peppers for the cucumbers. Jen, I don't understand what is wrong with the tomato plants. It is so weird that they have stayed so small, but it seems fitting for 2020 which I guess we'll remember as the year when nothing much was normal. You know, when the Tomatoman's Daughter posted that they wouldn't have fall tomato plants to sell for fall, that puzzled me too. They said their seedlings just wouldn't grow. Why? That is the puzzle. Normally, since we can control the temperature, light and moisture of seedlings in flats, they are easy to grow. I am puzzled about why theirs wouldn't grow (I'm assuming they start the fall plants in the greenhouse) this summer but it is just another one of those weird things. Jennifer, Tim will watch YouTube repair videos to see how to repair the washer and drier, for example, and he likes them. I don't watch any YouTube stuff---there is so much out there and some of it can really lead brand new gardeners astray because they don't know who gives out reliable info or info that applies to our climate and who doesn't since they are brand new to gardening. I know lots of people like them, but I don't and I have too many other ways to spend my time more productively. I'm not much of a TV person in general though. I prefer reading books and magazines to TV time any and every time. I think August is the worst month to find stuff in garden centers, and I totally agree it is too hot to wear masks comfortably outdoors. I'll shop for plants in Sept or Oct. It isn't my choice when....it will depend on when the fall shipments of plants arrive. Lately, it has been so hot in September that the autumn plant shipments seem later and later every year. Sometimes it is October....and only October. Whatever hasn't sold before the end of October gets shoved aside to make room for Christmas products. I have to check the stores weekly in Sept and Oct to see when the stuff is arriving, and it seems like it takes forever some years. Rebecca, There is no normal for Oklahoma weather, is there? I totally agree that all that is typical, average or normal for us here is the kind of inconsistency that drives gardeners batty. When a meteorologist does a long-range forecast like that, I see a difference in how the material is presented by a met who is not a gardener compared to how it is presented by a met who is a gardener. Luckily one of our TV mets down here is a gardener, so in his forecasts he often mentions how the upcoming weather might or could or would affect gardeners. I really appreciate that extra bit of info. Larry, Mockingbirds seem to love gardeners. I usually have one that follows me around the garden on a daily basis. It just sits near wherever I am working and sings, all day long if I am out there all day long. If I move 30' away, it moves with me. It is sort of bizarre, but at least I have bird song all day long. Lately we have a youngish hawk sitting in the trees in our front yard just a few feet from the front and side porches, making that screaming cry they make, so it clearly is hunting. It drives me crazy. I yell at it and it doesn't even go away. I am not sure if it is hunting rabbits, chickens, snakes, frogs or feral kittens, but with thousands of acres of grassland and woodland on all sides of us, I wish it would find someplace else to go and sit. The only plants I have that seem to be bothered by spider mites this summer are the verbena bonariensis plants, which always seem to get them. The spider mites aren't on any of the veggies or on anything else. I think they popped up on tomato plants briefly, but the beneficial insects must have gobbled them right up because they were gone in the blink of an eye. Jen, I wouldn't plant pumpkins this late. Even those planted by late July often struggle to mature a pumpkin before the first frost which, if y'all remember last year (most people had sub-freezing temperatures on Oct 11 or 12), can come in early October some years. If that were to happen again this year, then we are only 9-10 weeks away from a potential early first freeze. In 1999, we had one the last week of September! I built a quick sort of redneck-style hoop house alone in two days to save my garden from the early freeze that year. It wasn't pretty, but 90% of my plants survived the first freeze. And, that July 30th date is the end of the planting range, so it applies to far southeastern OK and not to the rest of us. If I plant fall pumpkins or winter squash down here in southcentral OK I need to have them in the ground by mid-July in order to harvest anything usable from them and even then that only happens if the first frost isn't until mid-November or later. For fall gardening, even planting two weeks later than what is ideal for your part of the state can give you a total fail on warm-season crops. Remember that fall crops grow more slowly as daylength, temperatures and sunlight intensity fall day after day. That's why we always have huge numbers of people working frantically the night before the first freeze to cover up and save their tomato plants loaded down with green fruit---because nothing has had time to ripen yet in fall's cooler weather. It happens almost every year. Kim, I hope the convention was wonderful, and I'm glad you like and watch YouTube, but it is not for me. Even if I sit down to watch TV deliberately, I start multitasking...reading a book, using my computer or phone, etc., and miss 90% of what is on the TV screen. When I finally tune back in and glance at the TV, I ask Tim what I missed and he just sighs and rolls his eyes because he knows I caught the first 3 minutes of whatever we were watching before I got busy doing something else. For me, I guess the TV is just on for noise while I'm doing something else. Nancy, I'm glad you got the rain. That must have been awesome. I wonder what became of that oakleaf hydrangea? New neighbors can be awesome. We had one we thought would be, but he refused to control his dogs and keep them on his property, and they caused issues around the neighborhood....so he turned out not to be so wonderful after all. Most people in rural areas know that it is imperative to control their own dogs and keep them on their own property because everyone else has chickens, goats, cows, horses, cats, kittens, etc. and don't need any of them, and particularly the babies, harassed by dogs that run free. Most of the new neighbors we have moving to the country nowadays seem mostly interested in growing a certain 'medicinal' plant and I really don't want to have anything to do with that process either, as crime often follows when some less savory types want to steal those growers' plants. Jennifer, I find watermelons incredibly easy to grow but I only grow the smaller icebox melons. There are multiple reasons for that, and the main one is that I can trellis them so they take up less space and seem less vulnerable to soil-borne diseases and pests. We also get a ton more little melons, especially from Yellow Doll, Yellow Baby and Tiger Baby, spread out over a longer period of time so the harvest comes in amounts that are easy to eat quickly. When we grew larger melons, we often had more than Tim and I could eat that were ready to harvest all at once. You also do not get many watermelons per plant when you grow full-sized watermelons. We've never had coyotes get ours because we've always had a fenced garden. Fred had terrible problems with coyotes when he grew Black Diamonds on 2 or 3 acres of sandy soil at the old home place (not the same place he lived...this was down on the river NW of us). Sometimes the coyotes would get most of his watermelons before they were ripe, even though he grew acres of them. It drove him mad. Even our four foot fence kept out the coyotes, and of course, the 8' fence keeps out everything except the frogs and snakes. In a typical year, I plant half of one long bed with trellised muskmelons, and half with icebox melons. The icebox melons mature earliest (some in as little as 60 days), and the muskmelons mature a bit later, and then there's more icebox melons after the muskmelons, so the two combined keep us in fresh melons for several months if I've done a good job of choosing a variety of DTMs so that everything doesn't mature at once (desirable with foods we can, but not desirable with food only grown for fresh eating). One year we had so many melons that I dehydrated some, which made the melons almost too sweet to eat because dehydrating them down concentrated all their sugars in pretty small pieces after all the water was removed by the dehydration process. I also have made melon balls of both muskmelons and icebox watermelons some years and frozen them. We like to eat them half-thawed because they are less mushy they way. I don't remember if I grew more melons in those years (I think I had two beds of them instead of one, and my beds were about 35' long) but we have had some great melon years here. While melons prefer sandy soil, they do great in well-amended clay as well. I get higher yields in the sandy soil in the back garden, but the plants in the front garden produce larger melons, even if I have the exact same varieties planted both in the front and back gardens. Sweet potatoes are sort of the same way---they prefer sandy soil but also produce well in well-amended clay, and the quality of the produce varies depending on the soil in which it is grown. In general, sweet potatoes grown in poor sandy soil will give you lower yields of smooth and pretty but high-quality sweet potatoes, and sweet potatoes grown in heavier but still well-drained soils will give you higher yields of rougher-looking and somewhat lower quality sweet potatoes. If you grow sweet potatoes in really poorly drained, dense, heavy soil, then you get sweet potatoes that often are cracked, somewhat misshapen and sometimes have some pretty rough skin that just doesn't look good. And, if you grow them in containers with a soil-less mix that is too rich, you get copious amounts of leaves, and smaller sweet potatoes that are thinner and sort of stringy. I've grown sweet potatoes every which way since moving here and have gotten a crop every year I've grown them except for one exceptionally wet year when the slips just kept rotting off at the ground level, and that was long ago when the clay beds were not as well amended as they are not. It seems like no two years are the same here, so every single year, the garden is an entirely new adventure. Dawn...See Morehazelinok
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