300cfm Hood vs. 600cfm Hood Requiring Make Up Air?
michele76
3 years ago
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Comments (13)I am the president of the coop board! But even for those not so lucky to have that job, yes, we can vent to the outside. That's how we vent our gas dryers now. I can also vent through a window which is what I will probably do rather than expanding the small vent to the outside that is currently there. 30" out of the question completely. I really don't want to do a regular six burner if I don't have to so I am trying to make this work--it really is just a cosmetic question because I can do the 10" duct. It is just that it is SO big. The specs for the 600 CFM hoods provide for 6" ducts which is what prompted my question. The ducts get bigger after that. Regarding MUA, we do have the ability to open up windows in all rooms. Since this is an apartment building, there is no waterheater, flue or any of that....See MoreBest WT321 hood with automatic make-up air
Comments (10)Generalizing negative pressure development or lack thereof on the basis of the size of the house is too inexact for my taste, given that the risk is combustion product back-flow into the house. One should measure the pressure, or test for back-flow, or both. This requires that the house not be under construction. It is possible with high cfm exhaust fan capability to develop enough negative pressure for back-flow even with an open, but screened window. (Notice the generalization here neglects to mention the nature of screen, the size of the opening, and other factors, thus making it only a warning and not a rule.) I think it sufficiently conservative to plan for MUA and then test to see if it is needed once the construction is settled enough that the house leakage is representative of its finished condition. If the leakage is insufficient, then one has to adapt the MUA to the external conditions. Don't forget that house leakage only occurs when the interior pressure is negative relative to the outside, and balance will occur between leakage in and air flow out. In other words, as the vent fan spins up the house pressure will go negative, the leakage will increase, and the steady-state fan cfm capability will just equal the leakage at that negative pressure. One approach to evaluating the scale of MUA required is to find someone, often associated with energy saving organizations, who has the equipment to measure the pressure differential as a function of the operation of combustion sources and kitchen ventilation. Another is to buy a suitable sensor and do the experiments oneself. In a low dust and pollen area with temperate weather, a big hole with a damper would be sufficient. Otherwise, a filter is needed. The pressure drop across a good furnace dust filter can easily exceed 0.1 inches of water, depending on air flow and filter size. If there is insufficient supplementary leakage to keep the pressure drop low, as is assumed here, the system will need a fan to boost the flow because 0.1 inches of water will cause back-flow of most combustion heat sources. If the environment is cold, then MUA heating is needed. This can be by electric coils, or by a hot-water heating system heat exchanger, or by introduction of outside air into a hot-air furnace system or into an air conditioning system where the cold air ends up being introduced into widely dispersed areas that might have sufficient room heating for the task. The solution will very much depend on the house configuration and its heating system. kas...See MoreDo I really need a 600 cfm range hood for an induction cooktop?
Comments (37)leel.....glad to get your feedback on the induction. Thanks! As for me, I certainly wouldn't mind having to buy a new pan or 2 for the new oven. :-) gsciencechick....thanks for the pots and pans suggestions and the confirmation about induction. I'm ready to be done with gas (although I love the way it cooks) because it's just so dirty to keep clean. muskokascp.....I HEAR you!!! Whatever happened to the days when we just went to the store and asked the opinion of the saleman or perhaps picked out a unit because of style or color? These days we almost have too much info, and it can become crippling, honestly. At some point I just need to make a decision. davidro1.....I love your 'final answer' comment. I WISH!!!! Although I certainly know a lot more than I knew before, I still have questions. But today at the appliance store helped clear up some things. (Meaning that they don't know anything either and I can basically do whatever I want). The inspector on our job (both HVAC and electrical) don't know anything about MUA and can't advise us what we should get. So I just told them I'd get something that wasn't too powerful, and they seemed fine with that. They told us to adhere to the recommendations in the manual that comes with the hood. I swear!!! It's not rocket science.....why is it that nobody knows about this technology?...See MoreIs makeup air neccessary for a 600 CFM hood?
Comments (6)I have a Viking range and hood, and we love them. My gas water heater and furnace are in an attached garage, and I live in a mild climate area, so my situation is different from yours, BUT, speaking simply from the hood's operating efficiency, you need to have make up air coming from somewhere for the hood to work. Air is stupid, it will come from wherever available - leaks in the house, down an exhaust vent from a gas appliances, etc. Unless you get the model with the remotely mounted motor, the thing gets so noisy that you will rarely use it at full power. We're normally at half, unless we're cooking many smelly things. In those instances, the fan is on high, a window is cracked, and you can't hear yourself think but the exhaust works great. Stay away from the downdraft models - they don't work. I'm not saying they don't work as well, I'm saying they don't work. We had a friend get one based on a decorator's advice, we tried to talk them out of it, they now regret the decision. Easiest solution - use it on low or medium for most uses, and crack a window for the brief instances when you need really good airflow because you're using many burners or you need to exhaust stinky smells....See Morelucky998877
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