What type of st.augustine sod?
Dominick Orlando
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first time sodder - sodding with Palmetto St. Augustine
Comments (8)Well, you have been getting advice that conflicts with what we have learned here over the years. You say you want to do everything right. Here are the lessons learned from years of reading Internet gardening forums. 1. NEVER rototill in preparation for laying seed or sod. 2. You can sod any day of the year. 3. Palmetto is a relatively poor variety. Floratam is the one you really want. So that bad news is that you wasted time and money preparing the soil. The good news is you can still have the best looking lawn in the neighborhood starting from where you are. Before the sod arrives, go out and water the soil completely. Water for at least an hour. This will settle the soil that is currently fluffy. After the soil settles some, level it again using a rake or filling in with sand/soil. Try not to raise the surface of the soil by blanket top dressing. All you want to do is fill the holes. Then water it again to settle the new surface. You can get the most level surface by dragging a piece of weighted chain link fence over the soil. That tool will loosen the high spots and drag high soil into the low spots that you cannot see. Then after your sod goes down, rent a water fillable roller to push the sod down to the surface of the soil. Roots from the sod will not grow through the air to reach the soil. The sod has to be touching everywhere. Since you cannot afford a sprinkler, go to Home Depot and get a Vigoro water hose timer. Then get as many oscillating sprinklers as you need to cover your lawn all at the same time. Then go to Sears and get Craftsman brand hoses to connect to the timer and the sprinklers (Sears' hoses do not leak at the fittings if you tighten them properly). You might need splitters to feed all the hoses out of the timer. I like the big green and black ones from Lowe's. Set your timer to go off every day, morning, noon, and night, for 10 minutes each time. You need to do this so the sod will knit to the underlying soil. If you do this for three weeks, the roots will be in and you're off to the races. After the roots are in you can back off on the watering. Ultimately you want to back off to watering once every week in the summer heat and once or twice a month the rest of the year. Use your timer to do this. I was going to lose my lawn this year until I got the timer rigged up. Mulch mow St Augustine at the mower's highest setting. Weld the adjusters in place so that your well meaning brother in law doesn't come by some day to do you a favor and he scalps your nice lawn. St Aug never needs to be scalped. Just mowing at the highest setting will give you the best looking lawn in the neighborhood. I fertilize with organic fertilizer 5 times per year on the federal holidays. I start on Washington's Birthday and end on Thanksgiving. If you use synthetic you can follow the same schedule except skip 4th of July...and also don't do the first one until after you have mowed real grass for the second time in the spring. If you don't want to spend the money on new hoses, cut the male ends of your current hoses off and replace them with the black plastic repair ends from Lowe's. The stamped brass fittings are the worst. The Sears brass fittings are slightly better. I really prefer the black plastic male fittings for all my hoses. They seal tight every time....See More3 month old St. Augustine sod dying
Comments (11)Barry I'm so glad you bumped this back up. Not sure how I missed it (repeatedly), but I disagree with much of what has been said. I don't mean to confuse you, but differing opinions usually do, so sorry in advance. St Aug should be very easy to grow in Houston. It will plow over under around and through any other grassy plants you might get including bermuda. All you have to do is mow it at the mower's highest setting every week or two. Currently it looks like you're mowing at the lowest setting. St Aug never needs to be mowed at anything lower than the highest setting. Some riding mowers will go up to 6 inches and some only go to 2-3 inches. If you're mowing at the mower's high setting now, you need a different mower. St Aug can grow up to 32 inches high and look fantastic (if you like the flowing wheat look). The taller it is the deeper the root system it gets and the (MUCH) better drought resistance you get. There is the occasional weed that will get into a thin spot, but usually you can spot spray those out with atrazine. How many thousand square feet do you have to mow? This looks below average for a new lawn, but when the lawn is so big, anything can happen. The big problem is mowing too low, but it does look like the sod went in with some bit of fungal disease. The 3rd to last picture shows some fungal lesions. I have been using ordinary corn meal to take care of fungal disease in St Aug for the past 13 years. It works for me every time. The application rate is 20 pounds per 1,000 square feet. I get it at the local feed store. It takes 3 weeks to see an improvement, but since you've already applied a chemical fungicide, corn meal won't work. Chinch bugs? You absolutely cannot see them from a photo. However, you can wipe your hand across the surface then they will flick up in the air. Put a piece of paper down and see if you can flick them up on it. There are some good YouTube videos showing how to do that. They hit the hottest part of the soil first, so that's usually next to asphalt or concrete. Then almost never begin in the middle of the yard unless you have watering issues. The first place to check would be in your last photo. And just because you might have one insect pest does not automatically make you a candidate for the full catalog of insects. And don't apply insecticide because you see bugs. Insects are not only normal, they're required for healthy soil and turf. You do have watering issues. I assume for such a large lot you have a system in the ground. It needs to be tuned up, because it is missing spots. Place some tuna or cat food cans around in the dry spots and in the green spots. Then time how long it takes to fill the cans. Some high flow systems can fill them in 20 minutes, so keep an eye on them. But some of your cans are going to be pretty dry for a long time. Eventually you want them all to fill at about the same time. Then use the time it takes to fill them as your new watering time for every zone. That's 1 inch of water. The idea is to apply a full inch all at one time. Then wait until the grass is ready for the next drink. Generally speaking when the temps are in the 90s, water once per week. With temps in the 80s water once every 2 weeks, temps in the 70s water every 3 weeks, and once a month the rest of the year. This also promotes deep roots. You don't have clay soil. You might not have perfect soil, but clay is not the issue. Usually the problem is a salt imbalance that causes soil to act like clay. Even sand can act like clay. If you really want to know all about your soil, send a sample to Logan Labs (not TAMU). For $25 they will send you a detailed report. Post that report here and morpheuspa will read it for you telling you what you need to apply, where to find it, how much, when, and how. That's another $200 value for free. Fertilize in May, late September, and again in late November. Don't try to jump the gun in the spring. If you want info on organic lawn care, let me know. I think you should, but not everyone agrees. If you go to a full chemical program, then I would suggest at least once a year to use an organic fertilizer (ordinary corn meal, again) to keep your soil biology happy. So in the long run, taking care of St Aug is easy. You water it depending on the temperature, mow at the highest setting, and fertilize 3x per year. If you do these simple things, you should never need herbicide, insecticide, or fungicide. If you see weeds in the early spring, don't use a weed-n-feed. Use a herbicide with atrazine. Read the label 2x and follow the directions carefully. Photo tip: Take garden pictures on a cloudy day to minimize contrast between bright and shadow....See MoreSt. Augustine sod job going bad again - Photos
Comments (6)You got what I had before I discovered corn meal. Corn meal finally got me over the hump and the grass is absolutely normal in that spot now. You can put down new sod every week, but it's going to die. You have to get rid of the disease. Once that happens, you will not need to redo it with new sod. The sod that's there will come in fine. Your soil pH is perfect for St Augustine. Don't waste your money trying to fix it. What that indicates is your soil is made of calcium sand instead of silica sand. You can pour straight sulfuric acid on it from now on and all you'll get is a deeper hole where the sand dissolves. Much of Texas soil is 8+ and St Aug absolutely thrives. Your problem is water retention...if you call that a problem. Actually your problem is you continue to water despite your water retentive soil. Clearly your initial watering routine is going to have to be different from the "normal" 3x per day routine. If your roots are knit into the underlying soil, back off on watering. Watch the grass for signs of wilting. When it wilts, then water and start watching it again. This time of year I would be looking at watering once every 3-4 WEEKS. If it has been at least 3 weeks since you used a fungicide, then you might want to try corn meal along with a light dusting of finished compost. A light dusting of compost means 1/2 to 1 cubic yard per 1,000 square feet - or even less. The reason corn meal works against disease is that as the corn decomposes on the soil, a beneficial (predatory) fungus appears on the corn. That predatory fungus will destroy the disease fungus. The trick is that you have to have at least some of the predatory fungus in your soil to begin with. By applying a chemical fungicide, you usually kill off the beneficial fungi leaving none behind to keep the disease out. Compost will reintroduce the beneficial fungi to the soil which will then populate on the decomposing corn. Corn takes 3 full weeks to show any improvement. The improvement will be that the new grass will grow to full height without getting any spots or lesions on the blades. You can see the spots in your second picture of the second post near the top of the image. St Aug should have no spots whatsoever. Here are some pictures. The first is normal and the second shows the fungal disease spots. As I recall these two pictures were of the same area taken about 6 weeks apart before and after (or after and before) corn meal treatment. Okay so generally here's how you care for St Augustine. Water. Deeply and infrequently. Deep means 1 inch all at one time. Infrequently means once per week with temps above 90, once every 2 weeks with temps in the 80s, once every 3 weeks with temps in the 70s, and once every month the rest of the year. In your case you might be able to stretch these frequencies out some. Mowing. Mulch mow at your mower's highest setting every week or two. In the spring when it's growing very fast, you might need to mow 2x per week. Tall St Aug is much healthier and needs less water and fertilizer than short mowed grass. St Aug can be extremely healthy at 32 inches tall (I have pictures), so letting it get up to 5 or 6 inches is not a problem. Fertilizer. Once on Memorial day, once on Labor Day, and once around Thanksgiving. Seeing as how you're so far south you might move these to once in early May, once in late Sept, and once around Christmas....See MoreSt. Augustine Lawn mostly dead after installing SOD last spring
Comments (15)I think I have a plan for what to do. I think in the spring I am going to purchase 200 sq. ft. of Zoysia and put down 100 Sq. ft. on top of what is there now and then clear away as much as I can and put down another 100 Sq. Ft. in the cleared area and watch it for a year to see what happens. I both die then I am probably out of luck and nothing is going to work. If the cleared 100 Sq. Ft. grow then I will do that approach. If the un cleared area grows well then follow that by just laying down over the old dead stuff or perhaps I will find that it does not matter if it is cleared or not. The fungus if that is what it is may not affect the Zoysia at all but I won't know until I try. Any thoughts on this approach?...See MoreDominick Orlando
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