artisan bread cloche pan?
roxanna7
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Artisan bread only rises sideways, not up
Comments (18)Thanks, coconut. That helped me some. I used my cheapy mixer and finished with my hands. It was a very sticky dough. I chose to make the European Peasant Bread for the first try. Then I refrigerated it, covered in saran wrap with gaps on the side (they say don't make it air tight). I did this on Sunday and made my first loaf last night. But, the dough (in the container) had dry tough spots around the edges that I had to remove and throw out. I've since made it air tight. When I formed the loaf it had the texture of a down pillow and was not sticky at all. And I used lots of flour when cloaking. The loaf came out great. After cloaking, it spread sideways a little at first and then rose a little in the middle. Not much though, it was no where near double. This took 4 1/2 hours. I waited until it was just a little bit cool to the touch before scoring and baking. At first it was very cold to the touch. My kitchen and home was at 70 degrees all day. I think I should have waited a little longer but it was getting late. The loaf had just a hint of gummy texture in the very center, but not enough really worry about. It had not risen much when I put it in the oven but it rose a lot once it was in. Doubled in height. You could literally look away from the bread for 30 seconds -look back- and see the difference. It "sprang" that fast. I'm guessing that letting it warm up for so long helped. That, or the fact that it dried out some due to the gaps in the saran wrap. Also it had a mix of white, rye and wheat. So... ??? Do you all have little rising and lots of oven spring? And do you put your bread in the oven when it is still really cold? We liked it. The flavor was really good. I wouldn't call this 'easy' compared to regular bread baking - just because it's a different method and I worried over it a bit, lol. BUT it's way easier than making a starter, feeding the starter, etc. And faster too - with a similar flavor. At this point I think I'll keep doing it for a while. Unless it starts to drive me crazy with problems. linnea, the book says to work in more flour if it's too wet, so have you tried that yet? I guess they mean work it into the whole batch. Not each individual loaf......See MoreAnother bread question - Artisan breads?
Comments (16)Linda, If you want to convert a bread machine recipe to a made by hand recipe, try this: in a bowl - put in the water or other liquid called for add in the yeast, whisk to dissolve, let sit 5-10 minutes to "proof" the yeast and made sure it is viable add any sugar, honey, maple syrup or other sweetener called for in the recipe, stir well add half of the flour called for in recipe, add salt and mix well, stirring with a strong spoon or heavy duty whisk also add in any dry herbs or spices now add in any butter, oil, or other fat called for - if melted butter, make sure it is only just warm, not hot - add in any egg(s) listed in recipe add in rest of flour and any other ingredients, chopped herbs, nuts, dried fruits, cheese, etc. stir well with spoon or mix with your hands until dough is a rather shaggy mass turn out dough onto a clean, floured flat surface and knead for 8-10 minutes adding only small sprinkles of flour if the dough sticks to your hands and the kneading surface [if you forgot those nuts, cheese, or raisins, you can knead them in now] when dough has been kneaded sufficiently it will come together into a nice firm ball (rather than a shaggy mass) and spring back when poked with a finger grease or oil a large bowl (or use the one you mixed in), put dough in, turn it around in the oil to grease the top of the dough and turn it oiled side up in the bowl; cover with a bowl cover (shower cap type), plastic wrap, or wax paper, then cover with a clean kitchen "tea" towel (dampened with hot water if you are making whole wheat bread) and set the dough to rise until doubled in bulk turn out dough, knead 2 minutes, divide into portions according to recipe or not - form loaves and put in greased loaf pans or not - cover again with wrap, and let rise until doubled in bulk preheat oven, bake bread until done, let cool at least a few minutes before cutting - and enjoy!...See MoreAnyone doing Artisan Bread in 5-minutes a day?
Comments (64)I followed the link teresa posted & mixed up a batch of master recipe on Wednesday evening. I baked my first loaf of artisan bread tonight. After if came out of the oven I almost broke my arm patting myself on the back. Never ever would I have thought it would turn out so good. I preheated my oven to 500. Once it reached 500 I then turned it back to 450. I have an old oval shaped clay baker (it has seldom been used) that I put in my oven along with the lid. Set my timer for 45 minutes then proceded to prep the dough. There was no work to it at all. Just like the video I was able to cut a chunk off and shape it with a little more flour in less than a minute. I threw it on a silpat sheet sprinkled with cornmeal to rise. 45 minutes later I put a couple of slits in it then into my baker it went. I added the lid and set my timer for another 30 minutes. I didn't know if I should remove the lid half way thru or not. As a matter of fact I didn't even think about removing the lid till about 5 minutes befor the timer was to go off. I did remove it at that time and was amazed at how great the bread looked. Five minutes later I pulled it from the oven. I was telling myself to let it cool down befor I cut into it. Bread should not be cut while its hot. Right? Heck I don't know. I have no willpower!! Oh my I was in shock. I still can't believe I produced such a beautiful tasty loaf of artsian bread. Thank you teresa for the link to the recipe. Now that I have tried it and it worked I will buy the book ASAP. I can not wait to try some of the other recipes. The pecan rolls are calling my name, my very own home made english muffins and pitas! I want to make a marble rye worthy of Jerry Seinfield! I have plans to go to the Amish store for several different flours and spices. I am gonna weigh a ton! Dawn...See MoreQuestion about 5 min Artisan Bread and steam
Comments (6)What a timely question; I have dough rising (on the counter) as we speak. I never gave the broiler pan much thought. I just used the bottom of it and threw the water in. I think a wide shallow pan is easier to use and get the steam going quickly. I don't think my bread has suffered any....See Moreroxanna7
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