Getting new gas range this week for CC house

4 years ago

We're in Cathedral City now for an extended stay - from Christmas through Jan 4, and so I have been doing more cooking here. This leg me to the conclusion that we absolutely have to replace the old Whirlpool range that came with the house and is probably as old as the house - from 1991. We are getting a Samsung NX58H5600SS 30" Gas Range, and it will be delivered on Thursday. I think it will be decent enough for a house where we stay only occasionally and intend to rent out when possible. We're still waiting for the city to lift the moratorium on STVRs, which we hope will be early next month. I like that the oven will bake as low as 150°, and it also has a broil function, which my Bertazzoni does not AFAIK. I like the burners on the Samsung range, especially with the middle oval burner with griddle. I kind of wish I had that at home.

Problems with the old Whirlpool include top burners that would not light easily (previous owner used a propane torch to light the front ones) and an oven that will not light at all. Not having a working oven was what made the decision for me. I have to be able to bake, and the toaster oven is just too small. I could get a bigger toaster oven, but I don't have the counter space for it, and I prefer to keep electric appliances to a minimum, to save on the electric bill.

I'll let you know what I think of it when I receive it.

If anyone else has this same range (or one very similar), I would like to know what you think of it.

Today I am recuperating from my second shingles vaccination shot, and so I'm not feeling that well. Last night I could not sleep well and had chills, but I think I'll be okay by this evening. I had to get my vaccinations here because the CVS in Westchester never had them in inventory.

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sleevendog (5a NY 6aNYC NL CA)

4 years ago

Heat guns operate at a concentrated 600-750º. Direct contact in a 2-3inch circumference and will melt paint. An oven at 550 opening will quickly dissipate that heat. No where near paint melting.

I've had some careless house guest in my last NYC home that blasted the gas burners and burnt the butcher block counter next to the stove. We never did but those that do not cook will destroy just about everything. Melted the handle on my sweet water kettle with high heat flame....

Hopefully your rentals, AirBnB, will eat out and use the toaster oven for the most part. : )

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plllog
4 years ago
Good luck with the installation!
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dcarch7 d c f l a s h 7 @ y a h o o . c o m
4 years ago
That's a very nice range. You will find the front right hand burner very powerful.

You should get a wok cast iron thing from Samsung for this model.

Try not to get the inside of the burners (under the cast iron round cap over the burners) wet. The cast metal Aluminum? magnesium?) can corrode. (bi-metal corrosion).

dcarch
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Lars
Original Author
4 years ago
Our Bertazzoni came; with a wok ring. I will look for a Samsung wok ring, but as yet I do not have a wok here. I guess I can shop for that now, or else bring the one I have in L.A. here and get a new one for home.

The Bertazzoni has cast brass or bronze burners that are pretty and they do not corrode. The small inside burner has a cast brass cap, and this burner has two controls - one for the inside burner and one for the very large outside burner. So if I want extra heat, I can turn both of them one, or else just one or the other. I really love my L.A. range, but there's no way I would spend that kind of money for this house. Flippers in Venice do install colored Bertazzoni ranges, however, but they are over $4K.
dcarch7 d c f l a s h 7 @ y a h o o . c o m
4 years ago
Make sure you are getting the wok ring specifically for this Samsung model .

dcarch
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ediej1209 AL Zn 7
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My gas stove is a GE but it has a central griddle too. I don't use it as much as I had anticipated. All those pancake and French Toast breakfasts went out the window when DH was diagnosed a little over a year ago as being Diabetic. But still it's nice to be able to make grilled sandwiches for all at one time. I wish my oven would do 150° instead of 170° being its lowest. Enjoy being able to bake again!
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nancyjane_gardener
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Better the vaccine than shingles! I still have nerve damage 25 years later!
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morz8 - Washington Coast
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Feel better tonight Lars. It sounds much like you are doing same as my SIL did with both her shots, chills fever. Not terribly sick but uncomfortable. Thankfully not long lived, Gone in just 24 or so hours.
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annie1992
4 years ago
I hope you feel better soon, Lars. I haven't had the new shingles vaccine yet, although Elery has. I'm not "old enough", my insurance will only pay for it when I reach 65..

I like my gas cooktop and electric double ovens, the best of both worlds in my opinion. Here we do not have access to natural gas, it's all LP/Propane. I do wish my Bosch cooktop had a griddle, but I'm happy that I at least have 5 burners.

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Beans&Bread
4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago
I think you need this range

It's only $10,000! Maybe you can find one on sale!!

It's a gas range, so it's worth it.

There's a fridge, too!! $50,000

Hope you are feeling better today.
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Susan Tencza
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It took me a week to recover from the second shingles shot! Years ago I installed a Maytag Gemini gas stove, I super small oven and 1 normal sized oven (all gas). Over the years I have found that the lower full oven when using the bottom rack is uncomfortably low. But, unless I am having crowds I only use the small top oven and the burners. I still have Viking and Wolff envy.
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Nancy 6b
4 years ago
I wanted a gas range but did not work out when we had to get a new stove last year. I do love my Samsung double oven range, but I have always preferred gas.

I am getti g ready to leave the house to get my 2nd shingles vaccine in a few minutes. The 1st one did not bother me too much, no more than flu shot. Is the 2nd one worse.
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Susan Tencza
4 years ago
Nancy 6b, I had my second shot along with the Flu shot; I think the combo did me in
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Beans&Bread
4 years ago
I had my second shot along with the Flu shot; I think the combo did me in

I had a flu shot and pneumonia vaccine together a few years ago. Four days later I had shingles.

Apparently the two at the same time blew up my immune system
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Lars
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4 years ago
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Here is a discussion of the second shingles vaccination on KT. It seems that everyone thinks the second shot is worse. For me, the reaction to the second vaccination was not all that terrible, and I feel fine today. Yesterday I just felt most tired and had slight pain in my arm, and I did have trouble sleeping the first night after the shot.

I have Dolce & Gabbana eyeglasses, but I don't think I could live with that stove - it's just a bit too busy for me. We have an Italian stove in Westchester that I like a lot, but it is just red.

I'm beginning to have second thoughts about getting a wok ring for the Samsung stove, partly because I cannot be sure that the correct ring is still available and partly because I really do not have room to store a wok in the kitchen here, which is extremely small. If I find the right ring, I might get it, but the Samsung ring is $78 + shipping, which seems too expensive. Here is a cheaper option, but I am not sure it would fit. I would prefer to find one in a store. The Samsung ring is $90 from Amazon. Slightly better price here.
Nancy 6b
4 years ago
I like the red stove! After all my appliances being stainless steel, I think I would love the stove of beans and bread. And mainly because it would not show smudges!

Went in to to get my shingles shot, but they were busy so will go in another day when not so busy. I got my 1st shot at the same time as I got my flu shot so maybe this will be no problem
CA Kate z9
4 years ago
Lars, Love the red stove! Haven't had good luck with anything Samsung so can't help you there.

When I had my first Shingles shot this Fall I was specifically asked when I had had my flu shot....not yet. They told me to wait at least 4 weeks between shots, and then at least another 4 weeks before getting the second Shingles vaccine..... definitely didn't want a doubling-up of the two kinds of vaccines. I only felt a little punk from the first shot, but the sore arm lasted a week. I was 'not well' for a couple of days after the second, and, once again, my arm hurt for a full week after. Now that's done, supposedly for my lifetime, but then that's what they said when I had the original in 2007.
plllog
4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago
I have to get a chicken pox shot.

So, I think the secret to the D&G appliances is to start with an Ultra Modern Euro urban kitchen, with grey box buildings out the window, that's just desperate for color. Even moreso, if it's white and part of a light-neutral great room. I've heard all kinds of excuses for this kind of design, like the people should be the color, but they all wear Northern European winter neutrals too (there's the design theory that says that people choose what they see, so Northerners wear and live in drab snow forest colors and Tropical people wear and live in vibrant flower/bird colors, but there's also the Scandinavian colorful folkloric colors and the Kremlin--I think it's SAD (depression) that brings the bland, or intellectual repression of joy, rather than than society choosing Winter rather than Summer colors).

Anyway, take one of those sad, colorless boxes whose best excuse for existence is refracting more light, and add in a ridiculous overdesigned riot of color and pattern and you get something happy and fun.

Re the wok ring, how much do you use your wok? Would you use it at least once a week, or once per visit, on something that you can't cheat with a good frying pan? If yes, find your best price, and get the proper one for your range. Or can you just take off the grate and use the $8 from the hardware story kind?

Re storage, since you're going to be renting the place out, I'm guessing you won't want random people abusing your wok, so it should go in the owner's closet anyway.
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Lars
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4 years ago
Home Depot attempted to deliver the stove yesterday, but it was severely damaged in transit, and so we refused delivery. The two delivery men first removed our old stove before they discovered that the new one was damaged, and then they wanted to keep our old stove, but I made them reinstall it. One of them said to me, "It's old," and I said, "It works." I also told him that he would not leave without reinstalling the old stove, and they very reluctantly put it back. I couldn't believe that they would even consider taking our old stove without installing a new one.

It will be at least a couple of weeks before we can schedule a new delivery..
dcarch7 d c f l a s h 7 @ y a h o o . c o m
4 years ago
I remember our refrigerator.

Installer took the old one and put it in their truck. They opened the new one's package and installed it. I discovered there was a dent in the back of the new one, invisible from the front. I refused to take the new one and want them to put back the old one. They made a few phone calls. Best Buy, the seller, offered a 30% discount for the dented new one. I accepted.

dcarch
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plllog
4 years ago
Nice when everybody gets what they want. ;)

So, so sorry, Lars, for the extensive damage and even more sorry you had idiot installers.

Other than during my down to the bones reno, I don't think I've ever bought a replacement appliance. A few additions, buts that's different. I'm flabbergasted. Between yours and Dcarch's experiences, a country apart from each other, it seems that the norm for the delivery guys is to abscond with your old appliance first to force your hand to accept the new one as is. I had to send back my hood twice because they made it wrong, but it and all the others were uncrated outside and offered for my inspection before installation. It should be even more that way for replacement appliances! Inspect the new one before uninstalling the old!

Lars, is the new delivery date going to be a big problem? I know you said you had semi-retired, but it's a big schlep from your main home. Good luck with it all. I hope the new range, once it's in and right, will be a joy to cook on.
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I like to forget all the delivery issues we have had. It is a good reminder to post these things since we purchase new appliances so rarely. (even though it sometimes seems like monthly).

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ediej1209 AL Zn 7
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When we had our new appliances delivered from Lowe's they uncrated everything on the porch for us to look over before they wheeled them into the house. Thankfully everything arrived in perfect condition and they even levelled the stove & fridge before they left. So sorry to hear about flu and shingles shots. DH had his flu shot last month. I still need mine. Not looking forward to that.
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seagrass_gw Cape Cod
4 years ago
Lars - I have an old carbon steel flat bottom wok I bought from Joyce Chen back in the 80's. It works quite well on my gas stovetop. I never have to worry about it tipping over.
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bragu_DSM 5
4 years ago
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Lars, you should mention to HD about the hassle, and HINT BROADLY that everything will be better if they throw in the wok ring free, or better yet, an extra oven rack ...

feed the monkey and watch it $%&t ....
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Lars
Original Author
4 years ago
I doubt I will get anything free from HD, especially an expensive wok ring. I'll mention it to Kevin, since he bought the stove and is in charge of installation. The damage to the stove was so bad that there was no way we could accept it, even with a huge discount. The top part of the back was knocked off at about a 30° angle, and we don't even know if it would have been functional with that kind of damage. I did buy a refrigerator for our garage from Best Buy that had a tiny dent in it, and I got a good discount for that. I didn't really care, since it was going into the garage.

We're going back to CC for MLK Day and Kevin will take the Friday off, as we will be having a repair guy come Saturday morning to fix the plantation shutters that need some repair. The ones in the master bedroom are sliding panels in front of the patio door, and the Teflon rings that they slide on are broken, making it very difficult to open the panels. I will also try to schedule someone to fix the water dispenser on the fridge, as we have home insurance that will cover that, except that the insurance company charges $75 for each visit.
Lars
Original Author
4 years ago
Here's the new Samsung range/stove, which was installed yesterday. As you may be able to see, there is a drawer to the right of it, which was a little too close, and so I cut a notch in the drawer face so that it would not hit the door pull on the oven. You cannot even see the notch from this angle, and the notch does not bother me. It's worth it to get this stove installed.

I haven't cooked on it yet, but I will use it to make lunch today, I think. We will paint the notch cut tomorrow, just before we leave so that we won't have to wait for the paint to dry. I also want to paint parts of the pantry door behind the door pull, and I will remove the pull before I do that, which will also be tomorrow.

Now I just have to figure out how to use the oven. It's rather complicated, and I don't know whether I can just turn it on with the knob in front, although perhaps I can. That option is not in the instructions, which describe a lot of buttons that have to be pushed and adjusted in order to control the oven. It does have a lot of features that I like, but it will take some time to figure them all out. At first it seemed like it has too many options, but I do think I will use most of them. The oven has a very low option, 150°, and has a desiccating option. It seems to have a nice broiler, which I do not have in L.A. I was a bit disappointed with the griddle that came with it, but I have my own cast iron griddle that I can use on the middle oval burner if I want. I had an extra griddle in L.A. that I brought here, and we had originally planned to use it on the outdoor BBQ, but I think I will use it more inside.

I'll post more once I've used it and have figured out the oven. I plan to write my own oven operating instructions that will be condensed to just what I think is relevant for my own use.
plllog
4 years ago
Looks spiffy! Congrats on getting it in and getting the adjustments done/planned. My guess--purely a guess--is that once you have the settings for customizing your oven experience are selected, they may stay that way until you change them. If that's true, then, indeed, you should be able to just turn the heat on and off with the knob. The problem is that most appliances are designed by engineers, not cooks. ;) May you and Kevin (and your renters) enjoy cooking on it and do so in good health and happiness.
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dcarch7 d c f l a s h 7 @ y a h o o . c o m
4 years ago
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Lars, just to be safe. When you tryout the oven, slide a piece of sheet metal between the oven and the drawer to the right.

When you open the hot oven, a blast of very hot air may peel off the paint on the face of the drawer. People do use a heat gun to peel paint.

As I said, just to be safe.

That's is a very good looking and practical appliance.

dcarch
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4 years ago
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The Samsung is the one we got to replace our tired oven. Really, really like it. minor learning curve. The pizza function sets it to 400. Bake is preset at 350, although you can adjust it. Press 'bake' and then hit the 'start' button. I have used all of the presets now, even the dehydrator. If you don't want the auto preset temp, you can change it manually before you hit 'start'. The temp in the stove is +/- 2 degrees off the indicator. I don't use the stove function anymore and leave it set on convection all the time. Cleaning is nice ... the oval burner likes to trap stuff around the bottom of the burner. We had a dickens of a time getting the oven door on correctly, because when they left, we had to reattach it correctly. otherwise, no problemo ...

oh, turn the fan on when you fire it up the first time, it'll smell awful that first time.

the front knob is for the oval burner.
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Lars
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4 years ago
Thanks for the advice, Bragu - I will use it when I start to use the oven. Yesterday I made lunch using the toaster oven, since I'm used to it by now and was only making sandwiches.

I don't know if sheet metal will fit between the oven door and the drawer to the right. The previous oven was in the same location.
dcarch7 d c f l a s h 7 @ y a h o o . c o m
4 years ago
I do think it will be OK. However, the new oven is 5.8 cubic feet in size, a good deal bigger then the old one, which was about 5 cubic feet. Plus the new one is convection with a higher BTU burner. When food is being baked at high heat and the oven door is wide open for re-arranging of food or adding ingredients, You never know.

dcarch

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