Fully-prepped meal delivery recommendation help, please!
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Comments (4)George and Rococogurl (*hi there!*) Thank you so much for your responses and my apologies for not responding sooner. Gardenweb has been made "site non grata" at the lab where I work and so I can no longer visit here during the daytime at work. I was able to read your responses on my iphone but not able to respond (log-in) on it until today when I could get on via my home computers. George, thank you so much for the contact info. DH tried to contact those folks but I think he wound up talking to the agent for the installation department only. I did speak to the design centre at wellesley about this delivery as well as to a Miele tech service agent on the phone. Both said as you do that (a) the shipping struts should be on until the final move and should remain with the units and (b) repeated as Rococogurl has that if there was a problem that we'd "know in the first use". Also, DH and I will assert that we have no proof when or where the struts were removed (or even that they weren't removed in our house) other than that (a) we didn't see them remove it in the basement, (b) that they weren't handed over or housed in the normal place, and that (c) in speaking to a couple of the Yale sales agents they declared that their customary practice is to remove shipping material earlier (one chap said in the warehouse the other said, in the truck). Well, we weren't looking to trip the delivery guys up and we aren't looking to create a tempest in a teapot so we accepted their verdict that this would be okay and allowed for the test to tell us if the machine survived these clowns. Sort of. Today they came to effect the install. And in the process, broke a part in the back from yanking things around without looking. Not a part that is needed for the machine to function - but still. One chap also declared to DH that while they go get the Miele install training, that really Miele is just super fussy and that the machines don't really require the meticulousness that Miele insists on. So they take the training but just install as they do any other machine. DH told them that he was a stickler for process and that they'd better do what their Miele minder told them to do. But who knows what they actually do. Frankly, I'm disgusted with Yale's installation division. We bought all our appliances from there when we did our kitchen and didn't even think to look elsewhere for these units. Now, there isn't a chance I will patronise Yale again. I told Miele Design Centre about our experience and they were super nice - gave us some signs to look for for trouble, did not slag Yale off at all, confirmed that this was extremely cavalier operation and gave us two places to go to to submit our reports - at Yale and at Miele. We plan to do just that. At the end of the day, I had the opposite experience from Rocs about these delivery chaps. Nor professional at all - cavalier slackers who seem to take no pride whatsoever in their job. Miele DC also told me today that to get around just these sort of experiences, that Miele has instituted a policy of warehousing, selling and installing their products with the customers directly - not through retail outfits. That this practice hasn't been implemented here yet because dealers have a strangle-hold on business in the NE, so it won't be until about next year that Miele will do the same here. After this experience, frankly, I applaud the move. Unless of course, this policy is like some other "white-glove" deliveries we've read about in these parts ... Anyhow, most of that was pointless venting. I wanted to thank you both for your insights. They both were very helpful to us. We did get the machines installed afterall and they are functioning....See MorePrepping for the Reno - Advice Please
Comments (17)It is always an adventure. We planned a family room addition and a kitchen renovation --- with a 3 year old and a 1 year old. It was a mess. The GC took out an exterior wall and put up a temporary wall that was plywood with insulation stapled to it. We set up a staging area in our living room that consisted of a fridge, table and a microwave. I put tons of canned goods on the table and many rubbermaid bins, toys underneath the table. There was very little room for the kids to play and it was stressful for me to be in the house because the baby would cry and I knew that was annoying for the workers. On the other hand, their hammering was a constant torture sound! I decided to take the kids and go visit my mom in FL for a few weeks so they could really crank it out and we'd come back to a finished project that had fallen way behind. Washing dishes in my bathroom, dealing with the constant dust,etc. made me wonder daily what I was thinking.... Anyway, we left for FL, came back and excitedly opened the door and discovered that the CG never set foot in my house when I wasn't there. GRRRR. I called him from my house(on my cell) and asked how it was going, to which he replied, "oh great." I was furious. That was the first of many problems we encountered with him. He was the worst and in the end our addition burned down the first time we turned our new gas fireplace on) and we had to start all over (when I was now 7 months pregnant. When I went into labor and was at the hospital, our roof was covered in tarps. My MIL called us at the hospital and wanted to know what to do because it was raining and the wind was blowing and the tarps were blowing off and it was raining all over our brand new beautiful cherry floors. Any way.... it can be painful, and expect inconvenience, but guess why I am on this forum now.... because I want to do it all again.... yes, we have waited 4 years. In the end, we enjoyed that kitchen and that new addition so much. I learned many many lessons --- the most important being TRUST YOUR GC, but it was all worth it. It was a product that I was so proud of every single day and we were so sad to leave that house because we had put our personal stamp on it! Good luck --- can't wait to hear about your finished product, I'm sure you will be so glad you did it....See MoreHelp: Would like a small prep sink into 12x12 kitchen, no island
Comments (51)"The wall ovens were always preferable but optional, as was a 36" wide fridge as opposed to, say, a 31" wide that is taller." Regarding the refrigerator...stick with 36" wide by 70" to 72" tall. Manufacturers in/for the US are standardizing on 36"W x 70" to 72" tall refrigerators as their minimum size offering. Yes, you may find narrower ones here and there, but they're usually low-end of the mainstream refrigerators or very high end manufacturers (e.g., Liebherr). So, plan for this size space for your refrigerator: 38.5" wide x 72" tall. Width: 36" wide + 1.5" for end panels (3/4" on each side) + 1" for air clearance and wiggle room = 38.5" Height: 72" tall This way, you won't have to either search far and wide for a smaller refrigerator or pay $$$$ for a high-end refrigerator. Periodically over the years we've had people come to either here on the Kitchens forum or the Appliances forum frantically looking for a refrigerator to fit a small space (width and/or height). If it's a built-in, you don't have to accommodate the end panels b/c a built-in does not need end panels to hide the sides of the refrigerator. Counter-depth and standard-depth do need the end panels. And don't forget a 24" deep cabinet over the refrigerator (I can't tell for certain from the drawing if it's 24" deep, so I thought I'd mention it!)...See MoreIsland Prep Sink or Not? Please help!
Comments (32)"I use my kitchen command center everyday. I have a large flat screen for the computer." The "Message/Command Center" in the above layout is for things like keys, mail, purse, school papers, charging station (if not done next to your bed at night), etc. It's not an entertainment center for the Kitchen. It's for: Things that people bring into the house from the garage entry and don't usually need to go any further into the house -- including papers that need to be signed and returned to school. -and- Things that need to go out with you when you leave the house -- including signed school papers that you took care of after your kids went to bed for the night or after they packed their backpacks for the next day. However, if that's going to be a library and not counters, then nothing Kitchen-y would go there. Jenningsf did say she has one planned for the Mudroom already, so it's not needed where I put it. =========== 2 Trash pullouts...normally I wouldn't want two either, but since Jenningsf has such a lot of cabinet and other storage space, I thought it might be nice to have one (the one on the island) where someone from outside the Kitchen could use it w/o getting in the way of someone working in the Kitchen. . Island sink...if you don't want one, don't put one in. However, it will be a much less functional layout b/c not only of the refrigerator location but also the overall size of the Kitchen. For some people, looks are more important than function; if that's you, then don't put in the sink. It is your Kitchen after all! In addition, you state, "since it's visible from the foyer and since it's in the middle of the main traffic pattern I would like to keep it clean." That sounds like you won't be doing any prepping on the island anyway b/c to do so would mean getting the island "dirty" and not allow you to keep it clean all the time. If that's the case (no prepping), then there's no need for a sink. . Island seating...The reason I put seats on two sides is that if you have more than two or three people sitting on a side, it becomes more like diner seating where strangers sit at the counter and don't have to look anyone else while eating. It's not conducive to conversation or family bonding. If you decide to go with seating on just the long side, then be aware that your island will probably need to be even longer. You need a minimum of 24" of linear space per seat (some are thinking that should be upped to 30" per seat, but let's assume 24" for now) You need to account for the paneling and/or cabinets Since the ends will not be open, you will need extra space for the end seats to allow people to be able to maneuver in & out of the seats with an obstacle on one side. So, for 4 seats: Seats...4 x 24" = 96" Cabinets/panels like in your inspiration, assume 6" each...2 x 6" = 12" Extra maneuvering space, at least 6" on each end...2 x 6" = 12" 96" + 12" + 12" = 120" or 10' For 3 seats, subtract 24" = 96" or 8' . Toaster & blender...if you are going to be using the perimeter for most of your prepping (so you keep the island clean), then I would not put the toaster, at least, in the corner. Someone making a snack would be in the way if you're trying to work in the Kitchen. I'd put the toaster somewhere out of the way...that was one of the reasons I put the Snack Center off to the side (it wasn't just a Tea/Coffee Center, it was primarily a Snack Center). Instead, consider putting in cabinets w/counters on one end of the pantry and putting the toaster there. It can be used in the pantry without getting in your way. The blender is probably fine in the corner -- unless it's used for snacks. If so, then I'd put that in the pantry on the counter as well. . Freezer in pantry...be sure your pantry is very, very well ventilated. Freezers and refrigerators put out a lot of heat and heat is the last thing you need in a pantry with foodstuffs! For best results for storing food, pantries should be cool, dry, and dark. In fact, if there's a way to pump A/C into it but not heat, I'd do it. If all else fails, plan to leave the Pantry door open all the time to ensure the heat does not build up in the Pantry....See MoreUser
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