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Pass-thru behind sink: flat or step up: Pic/comments wanted
Comments (8)Will there be any seating under the overhang (e.g., a sofa placed under it)? Counter seating? Might be an idea, btw, since it's a rec/computer room and the kids could eat snacks there. With that much overhang behind the sink, I think a single level will be fine and will actually be more functional in the long run as well as easier for everyone to reach food or other things on the counter, regardless of their heights. As to how high to make the opening...since you're going to make it much wider, I think opening it up to the ceiling will give you more of an open feeling in the kitchen as well as connect with the children in the other room better. B/c of the wider opening, it should be to-scale. If you're concerned about the view from the back door, then when you "gentrify" the door area, consider a frosted glass or wood partition (depending on room style) b/w the door & comp/rec room that will hide the sink from immediate sight. I like your idea!...See MoreDithering on pass-thru in remodeled kitchen
Comments (9)We have the same setup in our bungalow and did not do a pass-through for basically the reasons you cite (and also, our range is on this wall and I was lukewarm about having a pass-through over the range). Our friends were renovating a kitchen that also has that layout at the same time, and did do a pass-through (also over the range). Theirs is just a cutout---like a window with no glass with a little ledge---rather than being a usable counter or breakfast bar, as some people do. Pros: They can see through to the dining room and their kids play in there so there's a line of sight; at parties, they pass things through to the dining room and set up a table there, and guests could be in the dining room while the host was in the kitchen without being separated. Cons: Can't really put furniture on this wall (they have a built-in sideboard on a different wall, but in our setup that wall is basically the only option for a sideboard since our built-in was removed years ago); we would have had to take off the original wainscoting in the DR, which I really didn't want to do; cooking smells from the kitchen travel into the rest of the house. I also had a lot of qualms about disturbing the flow of the house with the pass-through; our house was designed so that you can stand at the front window and look through a series of doorways all the way through to the backyard. Without having the pass-through it's hard to say if we made a bad decision not to do it, but I've seen so many in similar houses that look awkward and forced into the layout that I was afraid of messing around with it too much. With a four-foot doorway, you're also ahead of the game; we just have a 36" swinging door that starts 6" from the wall, so it's a much smaller connection. (I very much wanted to do the 4' door, but my husband felt strongly that we needed to have a door we could close, and the options for the wider space were too costly for our budget.) Good luck with the decision!...See MoreTaking down loadbearing walls-Worth the $$ in our case?
Comments (18)Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts and experiences. deedles, chiefy, gooster. DH and I were thinking along those lines yesterday too. I found these on Houzz and really like the idea. The only thing is we have a similar passthrough but no seating between the kitchen and the DR now. I am not sure how having two passthrough's on a L wall will look. I will have to play with the software to see. scrappy, There is another entry from the DR to the bedroom hallway but I agree it is not ideal. The improved traffic flow was a big thing I was looking forward to. jellytoast, Zlauren, gooster, Thank you for sharing your decision making process. I don't have final numbers from the contractor yet. I am just trying to keep myself one step ahead and figure out all our options. gooster, the wall between the Kitchen and DR is also loadbearing eventhough it is 3ft away from the steel beam in the basement ceiling. The architect was also confused when he measured and saw that wall and the beam don't align! GauchoGordo, In our county, Architects are also allowed to do the load calculations and design. I wonder if hiring a structural engineer might have been better-maybe they would have had a better idea of the possibilities. The architect seemed to know what he was talking about. There are three LVL beams-from the post in the peninsula to the DR outside wall, from the post to the Kitchen outside wall and from the post to the where the current linen closet corner is. We don't have a second floor but it is a hip roof which I understand has loads on interior walls. So I am not really sure if this overkill or not. Thank you all....See MoreVenting a range hood down thru the basement
Comments (7)A good suggestion by weedmeister. The answer to resulting air flow rate will depend on the blower chosen as well as the restrictiveness of the ducting. For example, the Wolf 801640 Broan-NuTone exterior blower flow drops to 300 cfm at about 0.7 inches w.c. (some of which includes fan housing loss). The Broan 331H exterior blower is similar in performance. But the Broan RM325H interior blower drops to 300 cfm at 2 inches w.c. http://www.broan.com/common/productDigitalAssethandler.ashx?id=c6cb8514-86ed-49f2-bb1e-9c5443ad495c The former two blowers are intended for 10 inch duct, while the latter is intended for 8-inch duct. Fan curves for in-line blowers may be found as tables on Fantech's web site. At 300 cfm, I would expect the hood baffles to cost around 0.3 inch w.c., although this is a stab in the dark as this information is almost never available except for commercial hoods where HVAC analysis is expected and required, and in any case the commercial filters will have been optimized for pressure loss and. grease collection efficiency, while residential filters will have appearance and fabrication cost dominating the design. (A higher-end baffle filter link) http://www.filtersales.com/pdf/flame_gard_grease_filters.pdf If you consider your ducting with its bends and higher loss due to being rectangular to be equivalent to 40 ft of 7-inch round duct, then at 300 cfm the loss might be around 0.4 inches, w.c. (This can be calculated using on-line calculation tools; I am just WAGing it here.) The MUA is another source of pressure loss. Even a window screen can be significant, and a 3M furnace filter in line with an intake air duct will be higher yet for the same area. Usually, one needs blown MUA if the house pressure relative to the outside is to be kept close to zero. This is not needed for safety in this case. So, whatever blower is selected for this application, it should be of the higher pressure class and overcome an inch or more static pressure loss at 300 cfm for a high probability of success at achieving 300 cfm. Even if possible, enormous duct sizes are not optimal; choose ducting size to set the air velocity at the CFM achieved to at least 1000 ft/min (higher can be used in warm ducts). kas...See Moregreg_2015
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