kitchen design problem
b r
4 years ago
Hey. Our entire kitchen is set ready to order however we just noticed that the center of the sink will not hit the exact center of 2 cabinet. We are off by 3 inches. So my question is. Will it look ok and can this be fixed ?
My rough plumbing is in electric too
I have few inches wiggle room
Solution one. Make sink smaller I don’t want to I’m having a wide basin
Solution 2 make db30 a db27 I can’t they don’t make drawers that size only cabinet and i need those drawers.
Solution 3 make top cabinet a 24. I can’t. Bec it becomes 2 doors and all my doors are single 21 wide.
Pls help!!!!
I only included this run bec the corner of this run is super Suzan and lazy Suzan so it doesn’t affect any other part of kitchen. Pls help out! Thanks!!
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U-Shape Kitchen Design Problems = Range + Hood + Windows + Cabinets
Comments (7)Frankly I think as you have it, your floor plan is dysfunctional for a working kitchen. The island becomes a barrier between your sink and your fridge and freezer. Kitchen flow normally works as following. We take food out of the fridge and pantry > bring it to the sink to wash > prep between sink and cooktop > and then bring it to the cooktop to cook. It's also not a good idea to continually cross zones. Meaning in your layout, to get to the sink from the fridge, you'll be crossing your cooking zone. Additionally after you prepare your food, to get it to the dining area, you'll be passing your sink/cleanup zone. So in both cases there could be a safety issue too. Instead of a U shaped kitchen, have you considered an L shape? Yes you lose some cabinetry but you'll be surprised if you use all drawers for lowers, how much storage you'll have. I just got all drawers for my new kitchen and I have empty drawers! Here's what I propose: 1. Put back the prep sink. In reality, since this is an L shape, there is more room on the non working side to make the island wider. 2. I also made the island longer. 3. I moved the fridge and freezer to the same side as the cooking zone. It keeps the fridge and freezer still close enough to your dining area, but on the same side as needed for preparation. This also puts your fridge/freezer closer to the covered porch area. 4. The stove was moved along with the windows on either side to the wall where the sink was. I do agree that you can do a range hood the same size as the stove, but not one smaller. 5. The cleanup sink (and secondary prep area is now moved to where the stove was. (Note too the dishwasher is out of the secondary prep zone between sink and stove.) 6. The window on that wall was made much wider to allow more light into the kitchen. (What's the point of a big window under a covered porch area?)...See MoreU-Shape Kitchen Design Problems = Range + Hood + Windows + Cabinets
Comments (3)In the meantime.... First, I'd ditch the upper cabinets on the range wall and have the cabinets on the sink wall and refrigerator wall die into the range wall. That will (1) eliminate corner storage -- often wasted space, (2) open up the range wall more, and (3) allow you to move the windows to allow for windows + breathing space on either side of the rangehood. Second, I'd keep the upper cabinets on the both sides of the sink wall's window....but, I'd also probably increase the size of the window. Third, I'd get a more effective and functional rangehood. The one you're showing may look nice, but it isn't very functional. I'm assuming you cook and this is not just a show kitchen -- correct? You need a cavity/cup to corral the FOGSS (fumes, odors, grease, steam, smoke, etc.) for effective venting. A flat one doesn't allow for that. It becomes especially important when your rangehood is not flanked by upper cabinets and when it's flanked by windows. These two reasons are also major reasons why you should stick with your original plan for a rangehood at least 6" wider than your range. And no, don't count on the windows acting as ventilation over your rangehood. You need something above the cooking surface, not to the sides. FOGSS rises and expands, but rises more than expands. Also, if that range is gas, you may have issues with air from the windows interfering with the burner flames. The FOGSS expansion is why you need a wider rangehood -- to capture the FOGSS and allow the fan to vent the FOGSS outside. If you had upper cabinets flanking and up against the rangehood, you might be able to get away with a rangehood with a width = the width of the range. Unless...do you plan to grill or do high-heat cooking (e.g., stir-fry, frying in general, or even a lot of browning of meat)? If so, stick with the 6" wider rangehood. Other comments: Your kitchen really isn't wide enough for truly functional island -- you need about 13" more space to have sufficient aisles to allow you to be able to move around in the Kitchen with the island in the middle. The bare minimum needed: . 25.5"D Sink counters + 45"W aisle + 27"D island + 42"W aisle + 30"D refrigerator/freezer = 169.5" (5.5" more than what you have) (the 45" aisle is so you can have the DW open and still slip b/w it and the island.) 42" aisles are the minimum recommended for a one-person kitchen; 48" for two or more people. . Remember, though, that 48" wide aisles on all sides are better if you plan on having more than one person working in the Kitchen at the same time (two or more cooking or prepping or cleaning up or getting a snack, etc.) So, 169.5" + 3" + 6" = 178.5" (14.5" more than what you have) If you reduce the aisle b/w the refrigerator & island to 45", then 178.5" - 3" = 175.5" (12.5" more than you have) <== this is the bare minimum I recommend . Also, 27" is really a bit shallow for a working island, it's better at 30"D, with 36"D even better. Adding another 3" to the depth of the island: 178.5" + 3" = 181.5" (17.5" more) <== this is what I would prefer overall . Do you need to have cabinets/counters on both sides of the Kitchen? To be honest, right now those counters b/w the refrigerator and range are wasted space since they're not in a good place for a work zone. Would you be willing to switch the sink and range walls and eliminate the cabinets/counters on the left wall? If so, you could have an island with seating: . 30"D refrigerator/freezer + 48"W aisle b/w perimeter and island + 42"D island + 44"W aisle behind the seats = 164" ... exactly what you have right now! (13'8" = 164") I would KEEP the prep sink to make the island functional instead of just a barrier b/w primary work zones. E.g., right now, the island is a major "barrier island" b/w the refrigerator and the perimeter sink -- which will be your only sink if you eliminate the prep sink in the island. The island prep sink is the main thing that allows this Kitchen to be functional. If you take it out, you will have a very unpleasant place to work. Refrigerator & Freezer: Are these going to be true built-in appliances? Not counter-depth (CD) or standard-depth (SD), I mean built-in? I'm asking b/c if they are not going to be true built-in and, instead, are going to be counter-depth, then keep in mind that the majority of counter-depth refrigerators and freezers are actually 30" or more deep when you count the doors & handles. "Counter-depth" only refers to the refrigerator (or freezer) carcass -- the box only. The doors & handles add additional depth. The reason they're deeper is that the doors & handles of CD (and SD) refrigerators/freezers need to stick out past the surrounding counters, cabinets, walls, etc., to allow them to open fully. Standard-depth are even deeper (usually closer to 36"D). If they are CD, then you will need to add another 3" or so to the 13" I discussed above (so, 16" more). I'd move the DW to the right of the sink to get it out of the Prep Zone b/w the range and sink. Even with a prep sink in the island allowing the island to be the primary Prep Zone, that space b/w the range and wall sink will still function as a secondary Prep Zone. (You haven't told us about yourselves, so I don't know if both you and your husband cook, if you have children you will eventually be teaching how to cook & cleanup, etc.) . Let me see what I can come up with for you....See Morekitchen design problem
Comments (8)If we are speaking of the fridge wall in isolation, I completely agree with Sina Sadeddin. But your island is a barrier between the sink and fridge. I usually prefer an island over a peninsula, but I think this plan would benefit from moving the wall ovens to the fridge wall, and having a peninsula for seating. Dishes can be kept in drawers on the peninsula, for easy unloading from the DW, and easy access for someone setting the table. There is space for only one pantry on the fridge wall, but extra items can be kept in deep drawers on the back of the peninsula (or in standard-depth drawers, if extra deep drawers are not offered in your cabinet line.)...See MoreWHAT IS THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE IN KITCHEN PLANNING?
Comments (3)The most fundamental part of kitchen planning is "planning"! First of all, unless one is adding an addition or it's a new-build, there are going to be limitations. Ideally, my refrigerator should not be quite as far from my sink as it is, but in my kitchen, there are really only 2 places it can go, and while this place makes it further from the sink, it just "works" better as well as looks better. I'm the kind of cook that gets everything out of the refrig/freezer BEFORE I start cooking. If it's something that needs to go to the sink first, I can place it on the island and retrieve it later from the sink end of the kitchen. It's not just about the placement of appliances, it what one cooks and how. If one does a lot of dessert making or baking, having an area for the ingredients and the pans in which this goes, makes it much easier. The same is true for cookware - ones skillets and pots belong near the stove as that's where they are used. Dishes? If a best-of-all-possible world, they should be near the sink/dishwasher, but with today's trend (a good one!) of large windows over the sink - perhaps the entire sink wall with windows, this is not possible. So nearby is good enough. Glassware near a sink is more important. I spent months planning my kitchen - what I needed, where it needed to be. I'd never done a new kitchen before and at age 72, I would not be doing another! So I wanted to get it right. And I did! It's far more difficult to plan an open-concept kitchen as one is replacing a wall of cabinets and countertop with an island, but it's shorter than a wall. And it involves people eating at or standing on the side of that non-wall. Yes, I get it about being a part of things in the living area and not being stuck in the kitchen. As a widow, I VERY much get it - no husband to play host while I finish up dinner. But in the end, I still prefer a separate kitchen with 4 walls. I find people talking to me in the kitchen very distracting. I can't be a charming hostess and cook at the same time. An ingredient will be left out of something may burn. So, I let my guests "talk amongst yourselves" while I'm in the kitchen....See Moremainenell
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4 years agob r
4 years agoWould I be correct to assume over here I should move stove and chimney vent 3 inches. A- if it’s rough can I still move ?
And from left to right 39 double then 3 inch for hood then 3 inch space then 24. Is that right ?
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4 years agob r
4 years agoOk guys how does this sound
Left to right. 30 double door
30 double door
24 double door
21 single door
Then the corner in regard today’s talk
I can’t do 39. They only go up to 36
This accomplished centers of sink is aligned and I get the full usage of cabinet
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4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoOk I updated. How’s this
I’m having 2 separate sinks with big basins. It’s a kosher kitchen
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